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The reason why I think Lucian is dominating bot lane

Hochelaga·1/21/2019, 4:09:39 PM·22 votes·13,964 views

Please take a look at Press the attack :

Passive: Basic attacks against enemy champions apply stacks for 4 seconds. Attacking a new target removes all stacks from the previous target. Applying 3 stacks to a target deals 40 − 180 (based on level) bonus Attack damage Ability power Adaptive damage and makes them Exposed for 6 seconds, causing them to take 8% − 12% (based on level) increased damage from all subsequent sources (except from true damage).

Cooldown 6 seconds

And then compare it to Electrocute :

Passive: Basic attacks and abilities generate stacks on enemy champions hit, up to one per attack or cast. Applying 3 stacks to a target within a 3 second period causes them to be struck by lightning, dealing them 30 − 180 (based on level) (+ 40% bonus AD) (+ 25% AP) Attack damageAbility power Adaptive damage.

Cooldown 25 − 20 (based on level) seconds

Basically press the attack does more dmg than Electrocute on low level and almost has a non-existant cooldown. Considering how easy it is for him to proc that rune, it's no wonder how easily he can win quick squirmishes.

All it takes to cut down on Lucian's power is to cut down dmg from Press the attack (LOWER BASE DMG, LEAVE THE MAX DMG UNTOUCHED). He is one of the only Range champion that takes Press the attack as its main rune and has been a clear favorite in bot lane for his great burst, dashes and sustain.

78 Comments

GigglesO1/21/2019, 4:57:51 PM20 votes

ehh?

I mean: Damage (check) Mobility (check) Ranged (check) Able to dodge death because of mobility (check)

saltran1/21/2019, 4:59:00 PM11 votes

Yeah but pre 8.11 he had PTA and he was far from dominating anything, sure PTA is one of the reasons why he's strong but what changed the most was nerfing the others adcs itemization (and FleetF) while his itemization in contrast was even buffed cuz they reduced the gold needed to complete BotrK.

Jerry SeinfeId1/21/2019, 6:55:16 PM10 votes

yes let's nerf the mastery because one champ is overperforming : ^)

TempestAzure1/21/2019, 5:09:59 PM5 votes

It could also be the fact that other adcs are too weak to deal with him

chipndip11/21/2019, 5:40:26 PM5 votes

It isn't that complex, man.

Lucian dominates bot because if crit marksmen were good again, they'd take over the whole game like seasons 5 - 7.

Zetsutroll21/21/2019, 8:55:40 PM4 votes

Reasons why Lucian is strong:

  • Doesn't need to build regular crit adc items
  • Doesn't rely on auto-attacks to trade
  • Naturally good early game.

There you go buddy has nothing to do with keystones.

hhaavviikk1/21/2019, 5:38:41 PM3 votes

Lucian is in a unfair spot where he is strong early game, mid game and late game, boy do I wish renekton could be like that, strong at all stages of the game!

Håneri1/21/2019, 11:47:06 PM2 votes

a good lucian will kill the enemy adc in like 2 seconds with a proper combo after bork if they go close to him

name me another adc that can do that. maybe draven if hes fed.

Syrile1/21/2019, 11:52:51 PM2 votes

Lucian, nor Press the Attack is a problem. The game has been watered down to the point that any mobile carry with high damage is going to dominate the game. Return some skill to the game (not saying Lucian is not skilled because he has a high skill cap actually, but his kit fits perfectly in this meta) and allow for more than one or two types of champions to exist and the variety will be there.

Press the Attack is nothing particularly bad. Conquerors is worse.

oortoomeebreesuu1/22/2019, 12:14:23 AM2 votes

Can't nerf Renekton and other PtA users just because Lucian sucks to play against. His early game is way too good, but that's only a problem because currently, there is no late game. He has only been buffed since then, but even still he was a good champion in prior meta, but crit late game team fights were more important and almost a certainty to occur - not so much now. It should be relevant to prioritize or coordinate your timing/item spikes around your team comp, but when the meta is "late game doesn't exist because snowballing" the best early game adc is the best adc period. this isn't a lucian problem or a PtA problem, just a problem in general.