Please give us the ability to edit rune pages before a match

Nebuul··35 votes·1,863 views

I have managed through the various 2:1 sales to get all 20 rune pages. However, I still cannot make rune pages fit every scenario. There are 125 champions, 5 basic roles, and tons of possible mastery combinations. The fact is that even 30 rune pages would be insufficient. So I ask: "May we please somehow get the ability to edit rune pages just like mastery pages before a match starts?"

If you want to force people to buy rune pages, then open up this option once someone has all 20. But please, I respectfully and sincerely ask that you make this feature available so that players can truly play the champion that is needed in any given scenario. Runes and masteries are the last hope in champ select when counter-picked, or maybe you just get a rarely played champion in ARAM. Heck maybe you just end up unexpectedly picking a champ & role that is unusual. No matter what the reason may be, though, the inability to have appropriate runes to match your champ and mastery in every game is frustrating and currently unavoidable.

Just my $0.02

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Omnipherious5 votes

This is one of the oldest recurring requests.

If this gets any traction, we're going to see it anyway so let's just get it out of the way right now; "The technology just isn't there yet." - Riot

Long story short, the ability to change rune page setups in champ select would be a great thing but should not be something we expect to happen any time soon.

I would love for this change to happen but let's face it, if it could be done, it probably would've been done by now especially with all the focus on strategic gameplay/diversity/etc.

It is possible that Riot simply doesn't want to do it. Rune page customization in champ select could cause problems or bring other problems to the forefront.

Pre-game surprises are less impactful

Right now, it is common for people have custom rune pages for specific champions (meta-picks or personal favourites) and a bunch of general purpose ones.

Even if you or a professional player were in Draft Pick and you can see cheese on the enemy team, you cannot truly prepare for it because you are only able to change your masteries.

Because of this, it is useful for players and teams to have 'pocket picks' and cheese strats.

You don't see rune setups being highlighted in LCS during loading screens nor do commentators mention it unless somebody is using something that isn't the 'standard'.

Rune balance

Some runes and setups are just plain better than others. I'm not talking about usefulness, I'm talking about statistics.

Generally, 1 Quint = 3 Primary runes; or at least this was supposed to be the case. As things stand now, rune balance is shit and it is possible to have 'wrong' or 'sub-par' setups because of inconsistencies.

Consider some of the most common pick ups:

Flat AD Red = 0.95 AD; Quint = 2.25 AD; Quint is only worth ~2.37 Reds. Flat AP Blue = 1.19 AP; Quint = 4.95 AP; Quint is worth ~4.16 Blues.

Flat AS Red = 1.7%; Quint = 4.5%; Quint is only worth ~2.65 Reds. Flat CDR Blue = 0.83%; Quint = 2.5%; Quint is worth ~3.01 (0.01 flat value difference)

Flat AR Yellow = 0.9 AR; Quint = 4.26 AR; Quint is worth ~4.73 Yellows. Flat MR Blue = 1.34 MR; Quint = 4 MR; Quint is worth ~2.99 Blues (0.02 flat value difference).

Once you learn the intricacies, you'll understand why some of the 'standard' setups are the way they are.

For example, you would use [x6 CDR Blues] over [x2 CDR Quints] for [5% CDR] so that you can abuse higher value Quints (like Flat AP) while still having 3 blue slots to spare for an extra [3.6 AP], [4 MR], or to bump your [Magic Pen from 7.8 to 9.8] for flat Mpen and [5.49 to 7.38] for hybrid Pen.

The ability to change rune page setups in champ select should definitely be a thing.

But then again, so should a lot of things. Like...

Champion stats and stat gain consistency based on role + ability functions should be a thing.

Chromas for IP should be a thing. Skin Roulette for IP should be a thing. XP conversion to IP upon hitting level 30 should be a thing.

Replays should also be a thing. Sandbox mode should be a thing. Tournament spectating should be a thing. Opt-in voice comms should be a thing.

Actually useful tutorials should be a thing. Mentoring should be thing. Champ select lobby disband votes should be a thing.

So the point here is: a) good on you for bringing this up b) don't expect anything to come out of it c) yea, this is frustrating but don't dwell on it too much

TecToNiiC5 votes

I honestly wouldn't care if they restricted the ability to edit until you had 20 pages. I just want to be able to decide if i want HP per Level or Armor yellows and CDR or MR blues without needing 4 separate pages to cover the combinations. That is also assuming no variation in reds or quints...

As it stands I try to keep my rune pages very general but if i can edit anything i want in my masteries it drives me crazy that i can't do the same with runes

hgjkdlsaf jeldvb1 votes

I could see this. Riot gets their money, and we get our rune page edits

Very Hard Engage4 votes

but then you wouldn't have to buy expensive 6300 rune pages?

rito : "no, they need to spend RP to buy pages right away when they hit 30."

FirstSergeantBim2 votes

The thing of it is: You can edit your runes before a match in Team Builder. If you can do that in Team Builder, then there's no good reason why you shouldn't be able to do that in any other queue mode. You can also dodge to your heart's content in Team Builder, but that's another story. Oh wait... except it isn't. It's the same story. You can do a bunch of QoL shit in Team Builder that you can't do in any other queue mode. Hmm...

Kanzler2 votes

I wish they would either make rune pages or runes free/unlimited.

Dîlley1 votes

I wish this feature were available... Amumu I found a video from Phreak that goes through his Season 5 rune pages, and I think if you use these, you could find a page that works in almost every situation. Rito pls notice this thread... Only you can make this happen item 3070 item 2043

Phreak's video is in the link below. Hope this helps :D

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GgBhSnIt4RM

Ace Access 1 votes

better idea lower the price of the 3rd and 4th rune page you buy by 60% and the remaining pages will cost their current 6300ip

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