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Daddy Tie Me Up·1/11/2018, 12:29:15 PM·7 votes·824 views

is full tank malphite with 0 damage items out damaging EVERYONE?

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How do I counter champion that has to build 1 stat to get both benefits?

54 Comments

SEKAI1/11/2018, 12:52:46 PM11 votes

"is full tank malphite with 0 damage items out damaging EVERYONE? "

Because you fed him so hard they had the level and gold advantage to just power everyone down?

Critmaster Garen1/11/2018, 12:33:44 PM5 votes

by not building a shitty 3 ad teamcomp. your jungler and top laner lost and fed him. together with taric and rammus, hes one of THE few anti-ad tanks.

youre not supposed to be able to win against a fed malphite with that teamcomp. you played yourselves.

Critmaster Garen1/11/2018, 1:03:48 PM5 votes

looks like between his abilities, sunfire and gauntlet, he just dealt a lot of aoe damage.

fizz and dravens damage are mostly single target focused. if malphite sits in the middle of the enemy team long enough with that build, it adds up to a lot of damage.

like ziggs is going to 100 to 0 you for around 2k total damage lategame, unless he hits multiple people with his ult.

a 3 man malphite ult already deals about 1k combined damage. then there is his e, the aoe on his w, sunfire, and possibly multiple gauntlet procs.

Nyarlathοtep1/11/2018, 2:04:25 PM3 votes

And this is a prime example of people not knowing how to judge things. Here we see a everyday human being in his natural environment. Not understand why a tank dealt more dmg than the carries. Tldr look at what sekai has to say. His is 100% right. Mal dealt the most dmg because sunfire, bramble, iceborn and his w and e deal a lot of dmg despite building tank. ( his w and e scale with bonus armour ).

He took level advantage and looks like he engaged frequently with his enemy in order to accumulate all this dmg. Nothing out of the ordinary. Also mal has awesome base dmg on his ulti so yeah.

ADDITIONALLY. You wonder how to counter someone that builds armour? Well you are camilie, meaning you have access to true dmg. You could also buy black cleaver ( YES YES I KNOW CAMILIE DOESNT BUILD BC but he stacks armour sooo might as well try to lower it a bit ).

SEKAI1/11/2018, 2:06:42 PM2 votes

If you're harped on that tanks should do damage because they're "tanks". I wouldn't fully agree.

The reason for that is because unlike PVE MMOs, there is no mechanism called "aggro" outside of taunt. League is first and foremost, a PVP game.

Thus in pvp, in order for a tank to act as a damage sponge, it first must pose a threat to their enemies, a threat enough so that the opponent may at some point feel that they might need to attack the tank. Unless you want every single tank champ in the game to have taunt somewhere in the kit, otherwise the only 2 ways for people to choose to attack a tank is either because the tank is way too disruptive or because they do too much damage or a both to certain extent. And ofc for diversity reasons, some tanks end up having high damage potential as their 'gimmick' to attract incoming fires at them.

That is why tanks are allowed to do damage in this game.

This is also why Heavy in TF2 is allowed to do damage, in fact his damage potential as a whole is incredibly high, while also being the innately tankiest member on the roster. What's the counter? He moves like a slog, his range is limited due to spraying, he goes through his bullets like no tomorrow and needs to refill often, his damage per shot is typically on the lower side of the spectrum unless krits happened or other things, hence while his damage potential is immense but that is only if he's spawn camping or sitting at a chokepoint or something like that. The point is, relative design logic applies here; in a pvp game, tanks may work differently than PVE scenarios.