jesus fucking christ permaban darius in patch 5.16

Gigahappytown··8 votes·2,851 views

Flat out buffed across the board and his bleed deals phsyical damage so it applys BC stacks and the movespeed holy shit now he has a 90% slow for 2 seconds and a triple auo attack reset so hes he can proc his passive in 2 seconds did riot not think this through lmfao hes going to be 10x more broken than release.

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Sniper 04 votes

They removed the ms bonus.... his q damage was nerfed into the ground. It has good ad scaling but it makes him stronger late game rather than being a lane bully. His bleed used to do magic damage. Now you can straight up itemize for him and not have to worry about the bleed damage as much. His ult is still his ult and they took a lot of the front loaded power out of his skills.

I do think riot is making a mistake by nerfing armor and releasing these champs onto the rift though.

But this is just my opinion. lol

The Fast2 votes

Q went from bonus AD to total AD.

Level 1, hitting someone with the blade on live does 105 damage.

Level 1 on new Darius, hitting someone with the blade will do 156.

The scaling also goes up in rank for the new Q.

Level 9, lets say current Darius has a Ravenous Hydra and that New Darius has a Titanic Hydra. THats 70 Bonus AD on Ravenous, 50 for Titanic. New Darius has 96 Base AD at level 9, putting him at 166AD. That means his Q, now rank 5 will do as follows while hitting the blade:

Live Darius: 388.5 New Darius: 304.4 New Darius with Bloodrage: 430.4

Level 18, with a Ravenous BC for current Darius, Titanic BC for New Darius. Base AD for new Darius at level 18 is 141, with 90 bonus AD for 231AD.

Live Darius: 430.5 New Darius: 423.4 New Darius with Bloodrage: 703.4

Things to consider for New Darius: Bleed applies cleaver stacks Titanic Hydra's active can be used to stack passive Titanic Hydra's active does much more damage than Hydra's Can gain a 40(lvl1), 70(lvl9), 200(lvl18) AD steroid (40-200 depending on level) Slower Less attackspeed, but with more auto-attack resets(ravenous is not an AA reset, its an AA cancel) Q heals Darius for 10-30% missing HP per champion hit. Apprehend max second makes him more effective against tankier targets

Things to consider for Old Darius. Faster No Delay on Q Lifesteal on item

All-in-all, Darius is stronger early, weaker mid game, equal to insanely stronger late game.

Also remember that you will always have bloodrage for your ultimate if you ult at 5 stacks, adding a minimum of 300 damage to Darius ult at level 18, guaranteeing 900 minimum true damage per bloodrage dunk.

Dormidon3 votes

Level 1, hitting someone with the blade on live does 105 damage. Level 1 on new Darius, hitting someone with the blade will do 156.

Wait wait what? Are you kidding me? Let's see. Live Darius Decimate level 1 blade damage: 105 + 1.05 bonus AD. He had 56 base damage. Usualy Darius starts with 80 AD. (14 from runes/mastery + long sword). 24 bonus damage. 105 + 24 = 129. That's a lot of damage you know. Next one. New Darius Decimate level 1 blade damage: 20 + 1.0 total AD. The same 80 AD at start. 20 + 80 = 100. 100 freaking damage at level 1. Even with Bloodrage he wont deal 156 damage at first level.

The Fast3 votes

Whoops. You are totally right.

Don't know how I fucked that up. I may have used the rank 5 ratio on accident. That's why I shouldn't do math at midnight.

At level 1, it'd be 100 damage. With blood rage it'd be 140 damage. Totally right.

I was skipping runes and masteries because I usually alternate between 15 AD and arPen AD. Also something to note, Darius's AD per level is much higher now, resulting in an extra 26 AD by level 18.

Gigahappytown1 votes

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Whoops. You are totally right.

Don't know how I fucked that up. I may have used the rank 5 ratio on accident. That's why I shouldn't do math at midnight.

At level 1, it'd be 100 damage. With blood rage it'd be 140 damage. Totally right.

I was skipping runes and masteries because I usually alternate between 15 AD and arPen AD. Also something to note, Darius's AD per level is much higher now, resulting in an extra 26 AD by level 18.

90 ad start is optimal To do this 17/13 in masterys 4 flat ad seals 2 flat ad gyphs 9 flat ad marks 3 flat ad quints 18 ad total

Gigahappytown1 votes

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They removed the ms bonus.... his q damage was nerfed into the ground. It has good ad scaling but it makes him stronger late game rather than being a lane bully. His bleed used to do magic damage. Now you can straight up itemize for him and not have to worry about the bleed damage as much. His ult is still his ult and they took a lot of the front loaded power out of his skills.

I do think riot is making a mistake by nerfing armor and releasing these champs onto the rift though.

But this is just my opinion. lol

Yes it is your opinion and its hilariously wrong

Sniper 01 votes

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Yes it is your opinion and its hilariously wrong

I said the bit about riot nerfing armor was my opinion. If riot wasn't nerfing armor and releasing darius in his new iteration your post would probably hold no merit. That said, I think it is a massive mistake on riots part to nerf armor and release Darius at his current power level. He lost his movement speed from his passive so you were blatantly wrong on that point.

It's crazy that someone says something negative on your thread when you haven't put in an ounce of actual research yourself. Haha Blitzcrank

The paragraph was MOSTLY factual... Bro you need to learn how to read.

Passive - Hemorrhage In addition to its current function, Reaching 5 stacks or killing an enemy champion with R - Noxian Guillotine puts Darius into a Bloodrage. During Bloodrage, Darius gains 40-200 bonus Attack Damage and applies max Hemorrhage stacks to enemies with basic attacks or Decimate's Blade. DURATION5 seconds BLEED DAMAGE1236 (9 + 3 every other champion level) ⇒ 1027 (9 + 1 per champion level) BLEED DAMAGE TYPEMagic damage ⇒ Physical damage REMOVEDADRENALINE RUSHNo longer grants Movement Speed per champion affected

I'm nice enough to do it for you. <3

Gigahappytown1 votes

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I said the bit about riot nerfing armor was my opinion. If riot wasn't nerfing armor and releasing darius in his new iteration your post would probably hold no merit. That said, I think it is a massive mistake on riots part to nerf armor and release Darius at his current power level. He lost his movement speed from his passive so you were blatantly wrong on that point.

It's crazy that someone says something negative on your thread when you haven't put in an ounce of actual research yourself. Haha Blitzcrank

The paragraph was MOSTLY factual... Bro you need to learn how to read.

I'm nice enough to do it for you. <3

You missed one piece of information it deals phsyical damage it applys the movespeed boost and armor shred of black cleaver and it benefits from armor pen apphrehend passive is stronger than ever.

The only negative changes to dariuses kit that can't be fixed by items runes or masterys were

Q delay W having its attack speed slow removed(only helped if people wanted to fight you)

Darius is flat out stronger than release version

Sniper 01 votes

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You missed one piece of information it deals phsyical damage it applys the movespeed boost and armor shred of black cleaver and it benefits from armor pen apphrehend passive is stronger than ever.

The only negative changes to dariuses kit that can't be fixed by items runes or masterys were

Q delay W having its attack speed slow removed(only helped if people wanted to fight you)

Darius is flat out stronger than release version

ok? Your initial post was kinda vague sooo... that's not my fault lol. You kinda just released diarrhea from your hands there. How about you clean up your posts before you try to correct people.

Sakura Mirage4 votes

Dead man's plate Darius coming to a rift near you hide your minions or they will get dunked too.

Only Play Darius4 votes

lmao

damage nerfs on literally every skill

removed atk speed slow, now kiting him is even easier

only movespeed boost he had got removed

Q is now impossible to hit on anyone with half a brain

still gets peeled mid-late game

now weak early game

still extremely vulnerable to ganks

he's going to be even worse now than he already is.

Gigahappytown1 votes

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lmao

damage nerfs on literally every skill

removed atk speed slow, now kiting him is even easier

only movespeed boost he had got removed

Q is now impossible to hit on anyone with half a brain

still gets peeled mid-late game

now weak early game

still extremely vulnerable to ganks

he's going to be even worse now than he already is.

i don't think i've seen so much wrong in post Q damage is flat out buffed if you are using the right runes and masterys Yes they removed the attack speed slow but how the slow is buffed to 90% AT ALL RANKS and his E has 90% slow AT ALL RANKS thats 2 seconds total Bleed applys black cleaver thats a 20 movespeed boost and armor shred Kid did you even play new darius lmfao Its literally impossible to dodge if you get hit by e or w and people won't be able to dodge without using a escape or rushing boots which you can do too Nope infact hes stronger than ever Ganks? LOL THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO CAN GANK NEW DARIUS ARE TANKS SQUISHY JUNGLERS ARE FREE FOOD HIS 1v2 POWER IS ON PAR WITH HIEMERDINGER

check your facts before you post or else you look like a moron

stealthfox941 votes

Implying he's bad now. Which he isn't.

Only Play Darius2 votes

lmao he's garbage right now. Either he gets fed off of idiots who insist on fighting him at level 3, or he becomes absolutely worthless the entire game.

Maximum Zilean3 votes

Been thinking this for awhile now. And he will definitly be over the top unless they hot fix nerf him on the PBE.

And this is coming from a huge Darius fan. I'm fine with how they did his kit, adds some cool new things to his playstyle. But he's gonna be OP as hell.

instalokpro2 votes

yeah riot sucks at balance nothing to see here

just look at release ekko riven somehow not nerfed and vayne stiill the way she is

and their reworks are always broken look at new fiora

Ben Sharpio2 votes

i can't wait to see how my future self is going to deal with this bullshit champion.

Sakura Mirage2 votes

Still going to be easily kited

BluePolarizer2 votes

Is this why diamond Darius mains are saying that he's been gutted?

redniwediS1 votes

I love how different the talk on the PBE forum is compared to here...

UltraSceptile1 votes

Darius is fine as is why did they even rework him.

stealthfox941 votes

Yeah but Riven and Fizz can now dodge his Q. He won't insta win matchups like those any more.

N7Shurtugal1 votes

AS IF RIVEN AND FIZ USED TO LOSE TO DARIUS?

stealthfox941 votes

LOL. He did badly.

Ungrateful Thug1 votes

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Yeah but Riven and Fizz can now dodge his Q. He won't insta win matchups like those any more.

He rarely "insta-won" those match ups to begin with before the rework.

Beoridas1 votes

what?

Woodsy25751 votes

Lol are you kidding he's complete crap right now

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