Draven Spinning Axe (Q) bonus damage changed to [flat 30/35/40/45/50 damage + 65/75/85/95/105% of bonus AD] from [45/55/65/75/85% of total AD]
Blood Rush (W) mana cost lowered to 40/35/30/25/20 from 40 at all ranks.
I mean last time I checked taking 80% of someones health late-game with 1 auto isn't really weak at least. This is a minor buff to late-game Draven I believe
l Helios l2 votesIt's a late game nerf, early game buff on Q damage by about 10 damage in both regards, using the most common Draven build from champion.gg to build the stats.
W buff is great imo. You shouldn't go oom just because you need to juggle axes properly in full team fights.
Draven shouldn't be getting bullied and losing to champions like twitch in lane, but I don't think a net nerf late game is smart. All it does is further emphasize Draven as the snowball ADC and make him more dependent on cashing in. We will see I guess.
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It's a late game nerf, early game buff on Q damage by about 10 damage in both regards, using the most common Draven build from champion.gg to build the stats.
W buff is great imo. You shouldn't go oom just because you need to juggle axes properly in full team fights.
Draven shouldn't be getting bullied and losing to champions like twitch in lane, but I don't think a net nerf late game is smart. All it does is further emphasize Draven as the snowball ADC and make him more dependent on cashing in. We will see I guess.
well let's say he gets around 400 AD, the ratio on his q
we do 400 - 105 for lvl 18 base ad, that's 295 bonus AD, 105% of 295 is 309.75 now add the base and it comes to 359.75
ok so now 85% of 400 is 340. If you have over 390 AD it's actually a buff. It's not uncommon for ADC's like Draven to have over 400 AD late-game, then add potion + baron + infernal dragon, he can have even more than 400.
l Helios l1 votesDraven has 109.88 lvl 18 AD. Ie = +70 Bt = +75 Ldr = +50 Merc = +65 Runes = +8.5 = 251.5 bonus AD. Level 18 has 378.38 AD Old Q: 700.003 (378.38 × 1.85) New Q: 692.455 (378.38 + 50 + 1.05 × 251.5)
With infernal at 8/16/24% additional: 408.65/438.92/469.19 AD Old Q: 756.0025/812.002/868.0015 New Q: 754.508/816.562/878.616
Under the assumption you get all that together, it is a buff. However, imo, it's a little too unlikely you'd have three infernals spawn AND get all three. It is true it's a buff if you get a lot of bonus AD, but that won't end up being commonplace.
Ultimatian1 votesIt should be 268.5 bonus AD otherwise you'd end up with 361.38 total AD with just 251.5 and the old Q would be just 668.553. So Q: 710.305 (378.38 + 50 + 1.05 x 268.5)
l Helios l1 votesI did it twice and it checked out. Odd...
You're right though.
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l Helios l1 votesMath matters man. Sorry
ExHentai1 votesThese changes seem like an overall shift in power from late game to early game and from Q to W.
Q's change from total AD to flat damage+bonus AD means he is doing more damage early game and less damage late game. W's decreased mana cost at later ranks gives an incentive to use it more in fights to make up for the lost damage in late game Q.
dominusx1 voteshe isnt even half decent late game unless the draven is a god all you do with draven is run in and kill people that's what his kit is made to do. keep in mind he doesnt even have a passive late game and his range aint the best
Meep Man1 votesThis is mainly a buff to most forms of early game Dravens actually and only a small buff to late game Draven.