RIOT, a short message about the "5 man premade" group missions

SSShutTheDuckUp·Oct 2, 2017·183 votes·6,264 views

Do not do this. Should I remind you what happened when you forced us dynamic BS? Some people prefer to play solo. Stop forcing us to play as premade groups. I get it - teams at words play as a group. We are not professionals, we are playing for fun. I play mostly solo or sometimes with a friend or two. I find no fun in gathering some random people and fight a 5 man group, who play like every week together. Looking down at solo player was a mistake you shouldn't make AGAIN

63 Comments

LoLShrimpOct 2, 201738 votes

I don't understand how to complete this mission. I checked the shop but there is no friends tab, please help!

Velzard of KozOct 3, 20172 votes

I suppose they may come with the Mission Pass. You know, the busness model.

MonkeyMadnessOct 2, 201716 votes

Or even better, fucking add a global chat option to coordinate this shit...and not just the forums.

LleajyOct 3, 201711 votes

I've had someone that asked for something to do his mission in ranked, I had to directly shutdown the monkey telling him that's not the right place to do that...

So much fun...

For the mission you need to :

Restrict it to SR normal draft/blind. Not force people to play X type of champ, with X runes, X masteries or X sum.
Not force premade, it's silly, many people never play in full team, either don't want to or can't.

I think you have the base covered to avoid issues with the player base with that.

FlemmanOct 3, 20175 votes

Restrict it to not ranked sounds better than SR only

dragon/herald/ward/scuttle already restict us to that map, let us do the kill/tower/assist one on TT and aram at least :p

KarshOct 4, 20171 votes

To be fair, I'm pretty sure that the "destroy X turrets" mission was indeed doable on other modes, such as ARAM.

SpaghettiVaseOct 2, 20177 votes

Unlike the Invasion missions these missions almost have to be premade. How fun is it to get this every queue?

Random player - "hey can you pls play melee adc i need to complete this mission" ADC - "no i'm not comfortable with that" Random Player "fuck you" dodges and repeats

I mean shit the drake killing missions already make people beg and plead to go for drakes at the most inopportune times

WarkingeOct 3, 20172 votes

Yeah then dont do missions that impact in any way the gameplay and/or the picks/bans.

Next week its gonna be the Full teleport. Is that okay? i'm a jungler main i must play smite teleport? No i'll ignore the missions and pass my way though.

This mission system looked pretty cool, kill X minions, Get x golds, destroy x turrets. Now its going too far and ruining games it should stop. I do understand they wont missions to be the same. Then they can do missions for the game mode this week for exemple.

SpaghettiVaseOct 3, 20171 votes

The problem is you can't just op out of the missions because you'll have 4 other players pleading and begging and whining to do what they need done then when you don't do it you'll just get flamed out the ass.

T R Y P Oct 4, 20173 votes

i don't understand why people are trying to do the melee missions with a random... it has to be a pre-made of 5!!! not 4 with a random.. not 3 with 2 randoms... You're in a game with a retard and be thankful they dodged.

CaveslothOct 3, 20173 votes

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Unlike the Invasion missions these missions almost have to be premade. How fun is it to get this every queue?

Random player - "hey can you pls play melee adc i need to complete this mission" ADC - "no i'm not comfortable with that" Random Player "fuck you" dodges and repeats

I mean shit the drake killing missions already make people beg and plead to go for drakes at the most inopportune times

Yeah this bs going for missions in ranked is making it unplayable, right when everyone's trying to get ranks before the season ends. I've had Ashe adc in all my games even though she had crap synergy with the team every game, people just want the damn mission.

Hexs FortuneOct 2, 20175 votes

Its too late, they already have the missions locked in. Best to just ignore them as they only give 5 tokens and aren't worth the trouble.

SSShutTheDuckUpOct 2, 20176 votes

And ignore I will. This is a message for future ones

McemcOct 3, 20175 votes

It's ironic when riot expects us to play with our friends, when the game itself leaves us with no time to socialize.

LordKentravyonOct 3, 20174 votes

Look i was annoyed with star guardians pretty much all needing this 5 man stuff But of all the worlds missions ONE of them with a MINOR reward goving 5 mans the incentive to try something different is fine ij my books

Its when you miss an entire / significant portion of an event because your not premade that theres a problem

PhDs NutsOct 2, 20173 votes

Fun fact: If they weren't releasing premade missions, they could also just as easily design missions that don't require a premade.

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wyvern011976Oct 2, 20172 votes

I don't think the group in charge of missions at riot has a clue. Other games have a mission features, but they are smart enough to tie it to just playing not weird behavior or depending on complete premade teams. Gotta say I feel like I wasted money again on the pass. If I cant count on being able to complete all the missions it severely restricts my rewards. Great way to turn off customers IDIOTS.

WarkingeOct 3, 20173 votes

Tbh i though people wouldn't accept the pay to play the event shit. And wouldn't even think about people wasting money on it...

RavenMagusOct 4, 20171 votes

I agree with this. These passes are ridiculously expensive to simply unlock more missions.

KarshOct 4, 20171 votes

Other games have a mission features, but they are smart enough to tie it to just playing not weird behavior [...]

I remember you, Hearthstone, and your "Play X Murlocs" and other kinds of such dumb quests.

RobronoOct 2, 20172 votes

It's only 5 tokens, best to forget about it.

rtbf225618241Oct 2, 20174 votes

If you want both the top prizes (for those who got the Pass like me) you have to squeeze it dry 100% because it's exactly 480 Tokens total with the Pass which gives exactly enough to get the top 2 unlocks.

DeadUnbornOct 2, 20173 votes

that is why you don't buy the passes

rtbf225618241Oct 3, 20171 votes

Why, if i want the full set?

DeadUnbornOct 3, 20171 votes

That is the thing. You want the 2 sets, nothing wrong with that. Let me ask you this though: with some of the missions being so hard to obtain due to their requirements (Pick em points and premade group on summoner's rift) will you be able to get the full sets? if you don't get the 2 full sets was the purchase worth your money?

rtbf225618241Oct 3, 20171 votes

No, and i'm not sure if Pick'Em's count towards the predicted amount of 480 Tokens. Regardless, i'm pretty good at Pick'Em and got 34 Pts on both previous times.

Although this time it may be trickier, it'll remain to be seen.

Hexs FortuneOct 2, 20171 votes

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If you want both the top prizes (for those who got the Pass like me) you have to squeeze it dry 100% because it's exactly 480 Tokens total with the Pass which gives exactly enough to get the top 2 unlocks.

Which top 2 unlocks are you referring towards?

rtbf225618241Oct 3, 20171 votes

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Mysticman89Oct 2, 20172 votes

As far as the worlds loot article says, it's 175 potential tokens for free, and then another 560 tokens from the pass, totaling 735.

Both the top prizes together costs ~~480~~440, so pass owners can skip out on ~~255~~295 worth of missions and not miss out.

Skimming the list of missions, the only ones that can't just be grinded out are this one (5 tokens), the all members with tp one (5 tokens), and to a lesser exten the 2 towers within 15 seconds one (10 tokens), so people can can skip those ones and still have plenty left over.

edit: There might be a little more frustration on other missions if any of them insist on premades for some reason, but those are the only ones that seem like you're actively working against meta decisions.

melodiouskitsuneOct 2, 20171 votes

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As far as the worlds loot article says, it's 175 potential tokens for free, and then another 560 tokens from the pass, totaling 735.

Both the top prizes together costs 480, so pass owners can skip out on 255 worth of missions and not miss out.

Skimming the list of missions, the only ones that can't just be grinded out are this one (5 tokens), the all members with tp one (5 tokens), and to a lesser exten the 2 towers within 15 seconds one (10 tokens), so people can can skip those ones and still have plenty left over.

edit: There might be a little more frustration on other missions if any of them insist on premades for some reason, but those are the only ones that seem like you're actively working against meta decisions.

The top two together are actually 440. The chroma/ward combo is 320 and the loading banner/icon combo is 120. Only decided to pop in and make the note since two people now have said 480 in this thread. More of a lurker than a person who comments myself, but I at least wanted to help paint a more clear picture on total token costs.

Mysticman89Oct 2, 20172 votes

Ah yes, makes things even easier then. I didn't bother to actually price check their numbers, although I supposed that wouldve been prudent given they didn't know how many tokens were potentially available.

I'll tweak my post to reflect that.

Beacon 0F LightOct 3, 20172 votes

Except that it's not like this time around it prevents you from getting anything? It's just a couple of missions, and honestly I like the idea of challenging teams to do interesting comps. They're not forcing anyone to play in a party. Would you be fine if they implemented solo-only missions?

Champion SkinOct 3, 20173 votes

It would be a lot easier for solo players if they still had a public chat rooms in the game...

Like for those bonus IP weekends and events that required playing as 5 you could just easily gather a group of 5 from public chat rooms or just hangout there for a short while and get an invite and accept it

And if the random team you ended up on sucked for whatever reason then no problem since finding a new team was easy

Now there isn't really any easy way of doing that

Beacon 0F LightOct 3, 20172 votes

I guess so, but that still means they should add and improve chat rooms, not stop doing premade missions. I personally find the challenge of forcing unique team comps and strategies to be fun, and a lot of people did that kind of stuff beforehand anyway, so I like RIot trying to get people to have more interesting fun in the game.

KarshOct 4, 20171 votes

They SHOULD stop doing premade missions for as long as the function of public chat rooms is still not here.

Or if they really want to make premade missions, let them put them exclusively in the something-pass missions, since people who buy them already are clearly ready to give their best and put more work into completing missions, so gathering a premade wouldn't be as much of just an annoying, pain in the ass, sort of task for them as it is for others.

Beacon 0F LightOct 4, 20171 votes

But as I said, I'm pretty sure you can get the Ashe chroma, the top reward, without doing any of the team missions. You can correct me if I'm wrong. But that would mean it's not even necessary.

Also, I guess I just can't relate to people who have no one to play with or only want to play solo, since I have a large plethora of friends and we all play together frequently, and I always have more fun playing with a party.

Dream HighOct 3, 20172 votes

I spent 2 hours doing this and hated it. First group i'm just getting flamed by some toxic kid. Next group 4 man clan suggest we go into blind pick since it will be a lot easier to do the mission since people don't play serious in that mode, get kicked because some guy disagreed. Final group we get it done in blind pick becauce suprise surprise the other team isn't being serious at all. Terrible gameplay experience for a measly 5 tokens.

TreWolfieOct 4, 20171 votes

I thought the ~~MASSIVE~~ backlash for the second star event would have made this obvious. If this needs to be a thing, BRING BACK GLOBAL CHAT.

RavenMagusOct 4, 20171 votes

It's not about "teams at worlds play as a group and you should too."

It's about people in solo trolling others to force them into helping with the mission.

You don't have fun gathering 5 people, but I don't have fun going into a lobby to see "PICK ONLY MELEE OR I FEED".

Weasel KenseiOct 5, 20171 votes

Then maybe... and this is just a thought (common sense to some), Riot can NOT make missions that require everyone in a lobby to do something very specific that is unlikely to happen... Riot can lack common sense in certain actions, season 6, but they can work past it and just not make 5 man premade missions, and consequently not make 5 man melee missions.

If Riot were a person running around hitting children with a stick, and several people stopped them and said "HEY! Stop hitting kids with a stick." If the responded with "If I cant hit kids with a stick, who will I hit with a stick then, animals, women!? DID YOU THINK OF THAT!?" The response is of course, "Nobody. Dont hit anyone with a stick."

So your statement:

You don't have fun gathering 5 people, but I don't have fun going into a lobby to see "PICK ONLY MELEE OR I FEED".

Is of the assumption that we HAVE either 5 man premade missions, or we have trolls trying to force people to all do one thing... and like the stick issue, we dont have to have SOMEONE getting hit with a stick, we can just not hit anyone with a stick. It really is that simple.

RavenMagusOct 7, 20171 votes

I do apologize for the late reply, and you're probably the only person who'll see this, but I'll give some of my thoughts anyways.

I think these missions are really cool. I enjoy full team challenge missions; I find them a lot of fun. I do have friends to do them with (in fact, I hate playing League solo queue - there's a reason I'm not in a high ranked league - so I only ever play when friends are around anyways).

I can see the other people's point, though, and I can understand the frustration from solo queue players. In my opinion, I think these missions are a great thing, but the rewards should be minor and not necessary to get the best event rewards. (i.e. you shouldn't have to complete a 5 man challenge mode to get the Ashe chroma and border if you wanted them in this event.)

That way they can be around for those of us who like doing them, with some small incentive for completing them, but they're ignorable for people who can't or don't want to.

Your comparison is a bit faulty. Riot isn't hitting people with sticks. No one likes being hit with sticks. This is more like Riot handing out candy that's in a strange flavor that only some people like.

DayarusOct 8, 20171 votes

yes riot please do not give these mission i did the no range quest two times but after came to know its with pre made groups is it so difficult to win one game with no range it sucks

crzymdscntstOct 8, 20171 votes

There are 168 hours in a week. I cannot play for 138 of them. (Work, Sleep, other obligations.)

I just played 7 games tonight to achieve the quests. The last 4 were dedicated to attempting to complete this quest. 130 minutes across those 4 games totals 2 hours. 4 failures.

1 day, 9 hours remains to complete this quest. That leaves me with about 6 games I can probably play. (assuming half hour length average.)

My odds are not looking good.

Melee-only requirement on a premade (basically random players I don't know, might as well be solo-que). AND THEN IT HAS TO BE A WIN.

I do not like my odds at all.

I'm not saying the quests need to be SUPER EASY. (They really don't.) However, the reliance on other people to complete MY QUESTS, is absolute bullshit.

crzymdscntstOct 8, 20171 votes

Also, as a note:

Premade teams are not necessarily the issue here. Melee-only AND WIN is the issue. Almost every single map has definitive benefits to range that stack up against melee champs.

TheoreticalYarnOct 9, 20171 votes

What bothers me about requiring a premade group for some missions is Riot just reminding me I have no one to play league with myself. Coordinating a game with people I do not know is difficult. I'm a solo player merely because my RL friends don't play league anymore. So Riot basically ensured that I wouldn't be able to complete all the missions. Really bummed me out when I saw that requirement.

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ModPeriscopeFeb 13, 20201 votes

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How to complete this mission????

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The Bad TouchFeb 6, 20201 votes

Lol I don't even know 4 other people that still play this garbage. Entire friends list moved on.

Inkling CommandoFeb 6, 20201 votes

2 years later and this topic is still relevant. and with worse rewards now than back then.

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