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The Thornmail changes prevent everyone except FULL TANKS from building it defensively

Desiderium··3 votes·290 views

So assassins that sacrifice their single non-offensive, non-boot item slot can no longer have a half-decent effective way of mitigating (and returning) a bit of damage on their primary targets?

Chasing down an adcarry when I'm Darius, desperately trying to get a pull, and no longer having my Thornmail + Randuins combo? Now I just have Randuins. And it's nerfed.

Thornmail wasn't just a niche item. It was helpful as a last purchase for most assassins, and a midgame purchase for most bruisers, to be able to do their job without getting two shotted.

If I'm playing Zed, how do you expect me to jump on Graves when he can Autoattack me ONCE with IE, then ult me for 90% of my health? Assuming this isn't a teamfight and I wasn't hit by stray AoE (which is extremely common, mind you) I would have less than a second to be able to try to kill him, just because I no longer have a flexible defensive item in the form of Thornmail.

4 Comments

PiVoRx3 votes

Guy has a point. I often bulid thornmail as 2nd item for cheap counter heavy/pure ad comps and along with Frozen Heart nerfs, building off tank as non-tank champion is kinda pointless and cost ineffective now.

Riot really promotes pure ad comps with Varus/any adc in mid.

Desiderium2 votes

I guess their logic is more ppl dying + less build diversity = more fun WORLDS LCS right?

Miraweave1 votes

I mean, building thornmail without any health to back it up was always a bad idea.

If you actually wanted a single defensive item as an assassin against physical damage, Randuins was much better before the nerfs. It still is, though Dead Man's Plate is probably better still.

"Just build Thornmail" was always something people who didn't realize that pure armor isn't that useful said. Combined Armor/Health items have always been better and that hasn't changed.

pripustas1 votes

All armor items were extremely cost effective. I agree with toning them down. And those who cry about Nasus. Really? You are building tri force, and then going full tank, and still 2shoting carries. You think that is fine? I don't care that you have to go into late game. Because sooner or later, unless your team fucks up, you will get there.

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