There is no ability with MORE counterplay than Caitlyn traps

Caítlyn·Jul 12, 2016·5 votes·2,013 views

It is the only ability in the game that is 100% YOUR FAULT if you are affected by it.

Prove me wrong.

63 Comments

Akali is SO HOTJul 12, 201610 votes

lol ya just make sure to not get outplayed by her animation cancel for an instant trap lmao xD

warpenguin555Jul 12, 20163 votes

nah this guy probably thinks thats balanced too

MohawkBirdJul 12, 20168 votes

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ProExpertKingJul 12, 20162 votes

It's also really weird how as a sniper, her w gives her as much on the fly range as carefully looking through the scope of her gun for her ultimate. She takes so god damn long setting up a shot that has as much range of her with rapid fire cannon.

The Last BalladJul 13, 20162 votes

Its also weird how her ult can be intercepted, but not the enhanced aa's.

RalanrJul 13, 20161 votes

It's because AA's can't be intercepted. Which were always kinda annoying for marksmen, but that's a whole other can of worms.

CaítlynJul 12, 20161 votes

Whats the difference between that and someones skill that stuns and nukes you?

You can see and avoid one.

RalanrJul 12, 20161 votes

Most skills you can avoid when they're skill shots man.

LatetotheRaceJul 12, 20162 votes

Probably because when there's 5 of them, it's not possible to stay off of them in a teamfight, and most likely because she's a marksman. You know, the type of champions who don't really need any CC to begin with?

ShinkoMinoriJul 12, 20166 votes

Nidalee trap.

CaítlynJul 12, 20161 votes

Those traps are harder to see.

Also Caitlyn traps can be cleared when shes not around for 0 damage. Nida traps deal damage.

ShinkoMinoriJul 12, 20164 votes

They dont have cc, you can clear them when nid is not there and you get a meager damage, you can set them off when someone is there and you won't get hit by anything unless you stay still.

AstôlfoJul 12, 20168 votes

Uh, no. Nidalee's traps are easy to see. But they deal damage over 4 seconds, with each tick being extremely small. They also don't root/snare/whatever you for 1.5/2 (whatever, different sites say different things), trigger an AA reset + Headshot, as well as increasing Headshot damage.

CaítlynJul 12, 20161 votes

Easier to see then Caitlyn traps? Right. Because you cant see FLASHING RED LIGHTS

AstôlfoJul 12, 20165 votes

You missed the point. I'm saying Nidalee's traps aren't hard to see. That was all.

Kaisa is HotJul 12, 20163 votes

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You missed the point. I'm saying Nidalee's traps aren't hard to see. That was all.

Nor do they really set you up to die like Cait traps. Remember Nida's traps dont snare you. Such an invalid argument right here. Why are Nida traps even mentioned?

AstôlfoJul 12, 20164 votes

Um, I never said Nida's traps were too strong/good. Caitlyn said they were harder to see than Cait's traps. I said yeah, but then again, anything is harder to see than something as obvious as Cait's traps. I'm just saying that Nida's traps were still visible.

lol

I never even brought them up, someone else did. Please learn to read next time.

warpenguin555Jul 12, 20162 votes

the problem isnt visibility (unless your that guy that made the thread about it being hard to see the lunar wrath ones if colorblind). its not a balanced mechanic to block off entire pathways and you know it

RalanrJul 12, 20165 votes

Sion's Q.

CaítlynJul 12, 20161 votes

Sion can use his E or R to CC you once and then hit you with Q. Either way Q doesnt have to be held down all the way.

RalanrJul 12, 20169 votes

Ah, Ah, Ah, you said one ability. You didn't specify mixing it with others (which of course you can do with Cait's traps).

Sion's Q can be avoided by either moving out of the way, or CC canceling it. That's already one more way of countering it than your traps, because we cannot actively affect your traps, we can only avoid them.

You want to talk about counterplay to Sion? Bring it motherfucker.

CaítlynJul 12, 20162 votes

Okay fair enough.

Sion gives you 1 second to get out of the way. Caitlyn gives you...infinite time.

RalanrJul 12, 20166 votes

1.5.

Cait can force you to take a skill shot or walk into a trap to get a headshot.

BeatzBoyFTWJul 12, 20165 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/EVUZqTJu-can-we-remove-kindreds-ult

When OP knows how to talk more about how easy it is to "dodge" Cait's traps, when he stays silent on a thread where he gets rekt.

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

AHeroNamedHawkeJul 12, 20164 votes

You haven't been a relevant shitposter in 3 years

Go back to japan and pretend to be a girl some more

Kaisa is HotJul 12, 20164 votes

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It is the only ability in the game that is 100% YOUR FAULT if you are affected by it.

Prove me wrong.

YES I LOVE THIS, it's 100% my fault that I want to actually have some counterplay to turret sieging. O wait, damn Caitlyn main, stop trying to defend your dumb champs kit.

TheLastShadow45Jul 12, 20163 votes

If you have a teammate CC someone long enough you can place a trap underneath them.

ProExpertKingJul 12, 20162 votes

Alistar headbutt or any knock back/ hook ability as well as telegraphed teleports that make it more fair can have a caitlynn trap placed right underneath it and you'll get one shot as she's about 60 feet away cause you couldn't even cancel it, let alone even know she placed it even if you knew she was there.

CaítlynJul 12, 20161 votes

No different from Teemo shrooms, except one is invisible and ones not.

ProExpertKingJul 12, 20165 votes

Except that teemo's shrooms work entirely different. For one they can be destoryed. Second they have a visable timer before the are removed. If you sweeper them, they are unfuctional. Third they apply a short slow and have their own posion scaling so it doesn't work of his singular power as much as Caitlynn's trap does. Fourth, it doesn't actully apply anything to Teemo, only them. Fifth is that it actully take a little longer to become activatable instead of an instand cast from 3x the range. If anything, Caitlynn's traps are more powerful than Teemo's even though it's on his ultimate. Caitlynn basicly has an ability that doubles her auto attack range, multiplies her damage, sets off her passive along with that, and also roots the target in place. It is one of the most broken abilities espcially since if you spell shield the trap, that only protects you from the root and nothing else. You'll take full damage from her shot and she'll still get vision of you.

CaítlynJul 12, 20161 votes

"Traps are more powerful then shrooms"

LMFAO I CANT EVEN

DrCyanideJul 12, 20162 votes

Are walls of mushrooms holding would-be defenders at bay, or are walls of cupcake traps? Is Teemo being played in the LCS, or is Caitlyn?

Champions don't see regular LCS play unless something sets them head and shoulders above their competitors. So if you think that Caitlyn's traps are fine then you should surely be able to tell us what it is in Caitlyn's kit that is actually overtuned.

ProExpertKingJul 12, 20161 votes

Caitlyn's traps give true sight for 9 seconds and roots targets for 2 seconds. It also gives Caitlyn 650 bonus attack range, 50% + (critical chance × (1 + 0.5 × bonus critical damage))% damage which is all then multiplied by 30 / 70 / 110 / 150 / 190 (+ 70% AD)

Teemo's shrooms do 50 / 81.25 / 112.5 (+ 12.5% AP) per second for 4 seconds (200/ 325 / 450 total base damage with [+ 50% ap scaling]) and slowing them for 30% / 40% / 50%. The shrooms can also be destoried after becoming unactive and also have a timer of about one minute.

Caitlyn's normal damage true damage from just her trap and her base scaling would be from normal leveling of her spells. 134.15/232.058/272.514/325.341/371.952 level 1/ 14 / 15 / 17 / 18

That's all with 0 runes and masteriers and 0 items. 300+ damage per auto attack just based off base scaling and I bet if I toke, Rapid firecannon, Infinty Edge, Runiann's Hurricane, and Essence Reaver (all pretty common items to be built on Caityln) It would far far exced any damage could do with ap scaling even if he got 6 deathcaps or something.

zlumpyJul 13, 20162 votes

Don't forget any long knock ups or snares. Not like it would be all that tough to trap net combo someone that just got malph ulted or morg snared. Heck even Leona E+Q would make avoiding a trap pretty much impossible.

warpenguin555Jul 12, 20162 votes

Want a list? Keep in mind that some things such as Cass and Cho'Gaths passives were left off the list because they dont interact with the enemy, so there isnt much of a need for there to be counterplay

Aatrox q,e Ahri q,e Akali w Alistar everything Amumu everything Anivia everything Annie w Ashe qwr AurelionSol everything Azir passive, w Bard everything Blitzcrank everything e Braum we Caitlyn qer Cassiopeia q Chogath qwer Corki everything Darius q Diana pwer DrMundo we Draven we Ekko qw Elise qwe in all forms Evelynn qw Ezreal qwer Fiddlesticks wr

stopped making the list because i got bored

ProExpertKingJul 12, 20161 votes

Lux qwer You can stop people from getting a lux's shield bonus by knocking them out of the way. Also all of her abilities are telegraphed.

CaítlynJul 12, 20161 votes

Because traps arent the most telegraphed ability in the entire game?

ProExpertKingJul 12, 20162 votes

They aren't. Not really in the slightlest. Espcailly instant cast traps like Caitlyn's. I know you stole her name and improperly used Oumluts to do it but please atleast know something about the champion before making claims.

LatetotheRaceJul 12, 20162 votes

Instance 1: Gets stunned/snared by support. Caitlyn uses her traps, you're stuck extra long. Instance 2: You walk into bush and get trapped, support stuns/snares you, caitlyn lands second free trap. Instance 3: She litters either her tower or your own with traps, if you make one wrong step, you're likely screwed. This is a lot of potential from 1 ability on a marksman who really aren't supposed to make plays, but play off of them. Not to mention the trap triggers a headshot......

CaítlynJul 12, 20161 votes

So theres still 0 legitimate arguments as to why Im wrong. We got a guy listing random skillshots (lol), a guy talking about Alistar (???), and a guy saying traps are more powerful then Teemo shrooms (LOL)

Looks like this attracts all the bads.

RalanrJul 12, 20165 votes

Do you...do you even read the stuff you type?

MarshbouyJul 12, 20162 votes

no he/she doesn't.

ProExpertKingJul 13, 20162 votes

The best part is they havn't even played since like janurary and were so bad it's laughable

RalanrJul 13, 20162 votes

It's probably a smurf.

ProExpertKingJul 13, 20161 votes

Like they would need one. lol

BeatzBoyFTWJul 13, 20162 votes

{quoted}

Are walls of mushrooms holding would-be defenders at bay, or are walls of cupcake traps? Is Teemo being played in the LCS, or is Caitlyn?

Champions don't see regular LCS play unless something sets them head and shoulders above their competitors. So if you think that Caitlyn's traps are fine then you should surely be able to tell us what it is in Caitlyn's kit that is actually overtuned.

When you knew you were wrong & decided to stop replying.

Billy VoHagenJul 13, 20161 votes

Nidalee traps.

Checkmate, atheists.

ProExpertKingJul 13, 20161 votes

Atheists kind of have nothing to do with it.

Also the whole point of this is to point out all the abilities with more counter play than Caitlyn's traps. Cause even her usless ult has more counterplay and less damage than the traps.

Billy VoHagenJul 13, 20161 votes

The atheists thing is an internet meme. http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/checkmate-atheists

And I put Nidalee traps because, while they are the same function, they have more counterplay because they have more zoning potential.

ProExpertKingJul 13, 20161 votes

I still feel like Teemo's shrooms have way more counterplay than Cait's traps