I feel like Syndra could use an entirely new ult

Miraweave··4 votes·240 views

Syndra's kit is about manipulating her Q, and her basic abilities pull that off in a really interesting way. Her ult, however, is just an obscenely powerful point and click nuke, so her E is the only skill she has that actually cares about the positioning of her spheres.

I think she could have a much healthier kit if they gave her some more interesting kind of ult. The easiest idea would be a short line skillshot coming from each individual ball, though I'm sure there are totally wacky ideas I haven't thought of. Not only would a change like this make her kit feel a lot more interesting to play, but it would fix the biggest balance issue she's had in the past, which was the fact that her ult was literally just a targeted free kill at level 6. They could also afford to make early ranks of her Q a bit less worthless if they took a bit of power away from her ult.

I hope they at least consider this. I really like Syndra, but she really won't be a balanced champion while she has an ability that can easily do 450 (+ 100% AP) damage as a targeted ability with reasonable range at level 6. Either she'll be broken because of it, or the rest of her kit will have to suck.

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shyv2 votes

syndra is perfectly balanced imo

Miraweave2 votes

[{quoted}](name=trying too hard,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IJTswalI,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-01-12T23:28:34.242+0000)

syndra is perfectly balanced imo

She's on the weak side right now. And that's really where she has to stay because nobody sane wants her to be strong again. She'd hit level two and then win lane by default and even if you killed her it didn't matter because she'd 100-0 you with just her ultimate at any point in the game anyway.

Even if she's technically balanced, that ult really needs to be replaced. Targeted abilities that can reliably hit for most or all of someone's health just aren't good design, ever. Same goes for Veigar.

shyv1 votes

exactly, that's why i want her left alone. very few people at my elo play her at all and those that do don't play her correctly. i mained her for a little over a year and only like, a handful of people who main syndra and didn't give up after missing all their skillshots really know how powerful she is? most games i've killed the enemy laner as soon as i hit level 3.

i like her where she is. if she gets changed / buffed people will start playing her and i don't wanna have to deal with that shit

though bad syndras are basically free food so maybe buffing her isn't a bad idea

all the people that only play op champs as soon as they've been buffed will try out syndra and miss every fucking thing lmao

Miraweave1 votes

[{quoted}](name=trying too hard,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IJTswalI,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-01-12T23:36:41.548+0000)

exactly, that's why i want her left alone. very few people at my elo play her at all and those that do don't play her correctly. i mained her for a little over a year and only like, a handful of people who main syndra and didn't give up after missing all their skillshots really know how powerful she is? most games i've killed the enemy laner as soon as i hit level 3.

i like her where she is. if she gets changed / buffed people will start playing her and i don't wanna have to deal with that shit

though bad syndras are basically free food so maybe buffing her isn't a bad idea

all the people that only play op champs as soon as they've been buffed will try out syndra and miss every fucking thing lmao

Leaving champions to be weak because you want to play them is silly.

It also leads to situations like Malzahar where you have a champion who's kit is horribly designed and they don't want to fix the issues because the champ isn't super strong, so it's just a meh champion that feels like absolute shit to play against.

shyv1 votes

i know right? i'm so petty. but i've never laned against a good syndra and i hope i never do

Miraweave1 votes

[{quoted}](name=trying too hard,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IJTswalI,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-12T23:40:49.548+0000)

i know right? i'm so petty. but i've never laned against a good syndra and i hope i never do

Yeah did you play when she was fotm?

She was in every other game and it didn't even matter if she played well because she'd kill you at 6 and if she wasn't good enough to do that she'd kill you once she finished DFG.

I mean I also just really like playing Syndra and wish her ult were more interesting to use because it kind of feels disgusting whenever I play her right now.

shyv1 votes

..........face of the mountain?

Quepha1 votes

I wish they could make her ult a version of W that worked on enemy champions.

But even as an ult that's probably way too powerful and they'd have to cut her damage and relegate her to a support-type mage to have it.

Miraweave1 votes

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I wish they could make her ult a version of W that worked on enemy champions.

But even as an ult that's probably way too powerful and they'd have to cut her damage and relegate her to a support-type mage to have it.

Yeah that would literally be the single best ability in the game by a colossal margin. Think of it as "R - Kill target enemy champion".

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