For 5.6 or a patch soon after, would you consider buffing Diana's E?

PrinceArchie··3 votes·906 views

Are you guys considering it in any recent changes? I'm not new to the boards or the talk of Diana changes in general, and I have been very aware of the recent quality of life changes already made to Diana (Passive counter, faster orbit of Pale Cascade, Reset on ultimate if interrupted). However there's a big glaring issue about Diana that has been a problem for a while now in which many players reiterate over and over again. So i'm generally curious as to your serious thoughts on the matter, with ambiguous goals of making her more of a bruiser or an assassin in the future asside; are you guys aware and willing to buff the effectiveness of her E even if only by increasing it's range some? Because as it stands her E is if not the most underused and by far the most unreliable aspect of Diana, with no positives to take away from that unreliability, it's simply a weak and ineffective skill. Will you buff the range?

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Serenity Now2 votes

The only thing gating Diana is her poor early game. If she manages to get some decent farm, she becomes crazy strong from mid game onwards. You're setting her up for nerfs if she gets any stronger.

PrinceArchie2 votes

I can understand the want for her to be untouched because any potential changes to help make her more solid may indeed bring her unwanted attention (according to Diana faithfuls, and any other champ mains alike for their respective champs). However it's already been established that in the distant future she will be getting reworked to have a more solid Identity. They DO NOT like her dual role as both an Assassin and Fighter, she will get the Ahri treatment eventually. What do I mean by that? Ahri was fine before the changes were made to bring less attention to her charm and more to her Q and W, thus shifting her to a mage and killing off her Assassin aspect with the added change of removing DFG. Ahri wasnt broken but her identity wasnt clear cut, it was too flexible and not intended in their opinion.

This WILL happen to Diana eventually, whether or not they choose Assassin or Fighter officially is yet to be seen (though even Morello at one point said verbatim that he felt she is more of a fighter). I'm a Diana faithful and I do not fear the eventual changes to come, they will happen whether I like them or not, until then however there is one thing they can do in terms of making her solid in all her visible aspects. That thing is make E less useless, it literately is an underpowered skill for any champion. It's impact is low, even if giving Diana a concrete role isnt the goal at the present moment buffing it's range does not by any means put her over the top.

We dont have to be talking a range increase that put's it in somewhere like the 900 range, I'm not calling for a Mandrop radius sized Moonfall; merely a small hundread or so increase to it's already existing radius. Making a small change like that at the very least makes it so that when I use E on a target that is relatively close to me, they are getting pulled in and cannot simply continue to walk away. Even the scuttle crab can do this, which can be annoying at times and then what when that happens? You have a skill thats unusable for 15 seconds. Unreal, unreasonable, and it can be changed so that you literately aren't wasting mana and an action.

Fizz is not Fish1 votes

she is the only visible melee ap assasin now (kass, fizz, akali was fked)

another simply buff will make her broken..and then got azired/kassadined.

she is ok, don't buff her to be LCS/OGN tier.

A Bad Janna1 votes

just build her ap bruiser ggez

Just Me Talon1 votes

Anymore Diana buffs will actually make her perma-ban again, recent addition of Luden's Echo is likely to put her on the radar for bullshittery.

PrinceArchie1 votes

Yea the movement speed is definitely something that's going to make people realize how strong of an AP bruiser she actually is, which is fine. Still doesnt mean that E ISN'T borderline useless and ineffective at many intervals of the game. I know i'm probably going to keep getting comments like this but i'm fishing for a direct answer, one that isnt revolved around "Please don't buff my secretly strong main!" People are going to catch on eventually anyway, and she isnt even broken tier in the slightest, even late game. Relax...

Neo Cyrus3 votes

I don't know what you think a buff is, but Diana has only gotten nerfs along with her itemization getting murdered, no buffs, and if you think the shield procing faster was buff then let me know so I can blacklist you. Luden's Echo is trash that costs 3100 for 15% AP proc on spellcast. Even the butchered Lichbane would be more effective with a 50% proc that doesn't rely on running around to charge up so it can actually still be used multiple times in one engage.

The only reason Diana's win rate isn't still in the 30s is because everything else in the game has been nerfed repeatedly since then, there was nothing left on Diana to nerf. Compare Diana's base damage, scaling damage, mana costs, main stats, etc to any other champion and then realize her ult still leaves her stranded then be ashamed when you realize she's Diana tier, Olaf'd before Olaf'd was a term.

A Bad Janna1 votes

just leave diana luden's echo is l0l on her

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