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Riot, you need to stop fitting the game to a "Our" playstyle rule set.

Theorex··12 votes·1,774 views

You've killed so many strats because you don't like them. You don't give time for new Innovation. This here lowers skill. Punishes innovation, and forces a routine play pattern.

People aren't sick of your game because things are always broken. People are sick of league because everything is how YOU want it to be.

Bruiser meta. Assassin meta. ADC Meta. Mage Meta. Tank Meta. It gets boring to watch metas decide games. It makes everyone annoyed when you decide Obscure and Disarm are cool mechanics. Leave them in the game for 6-9 months. Then remove them when you don't want to see those champs anymore. That is what people are sick of. The fact that you blatantly disregard champions while making sure that others are strong. And the best part about that last statement is that. For the pro scene. You could care less about how things are in solo queue.

Ryze is strong in the pro scene. Yet he has a 47% win rate. Nerfed. Still strong with a 44% win rate. Nerfed. Get seraphs change. Win rate goes to 51%. Nerf to seraphs and win rate drops back down to 44%. THEN A BUG THAT IS IGNORED FOR THE LAST THREE MONTHS. IS IGNORED. Invalidating ryze as a champion. *If you guys are wondering. Ryze's EQ combo doesn't do the bonus damage if the target has a shield on them. Meaning. Aery, BT, Maw, Barrier, base Skill, Passives, and other things. Are making 80% of ryze's damage non existent. But hey. Riot really gives a shit.

Instead of forcing your game play views onto the masses, how about you let the masses learn how to play the god damn game. Because as a diamond level player for the last 2 years (long story for s6). All I am doing now is waiting for a good patch for my champions before I play. There is NO reason for me to play outside of my Meta. Because I will get shafted by the meta players.

This is how you kill a game.

11 Comments

Tobykachu11 votes

If you're in reference to how they removed the 0cs top lane strategy then please stop. It was not fun nor interactive. Ryze is an extremely difficult champion with a very high skill floor and a high skill cieling, so it 100% makes sense for him to get nerfed even with an overall low win rate, if the best players are still performing very well with him.

xDelightifyx2 votes

No reason to nerf support aswell though. Especially after already nerfing support items because of Riot wanted to break botlane meta. Thanks again for 150 less health and a weaker Support item ontop. How much time is left until conventional supports are getring removed?

Tobykachu6 votes

This is simply a massive misunderstanding. At least 95% of the time you were proc'ing spellthiefs was when you were within this range of an ally anyway and despite what people might be saying on the boards, there is little reason to try and proc it alone.

"What if my adc dies and I want to defend the tower?" - If the you're trying to defend a tower alone for whatever reason, you're better off trying to clear out the minions with your autos and abilities instead of trying poke the enemies into leaving. Unless you are playing an exceptionally high damage support along the lines of Zyra/Brand, you likely won't have the necessary damage to threaten them off the tower and are likely putting yourself at more risk by getting so close to them.

"What if my adc backs, but I don't want to?" - Again, there is little point in you trying to poke the enemy as most supports that build spellthiefs are exceptionally squishy and prone to getting annihilated if they try and stay 1v2. Generally your time is better spent elsewhere, getting vision or helping your mid laner/jungler out.

Not to mention each proc gives out more gold anyway, only 1 with spellthiefs, but when you upgrade to frostfang you get +2 more gold per proc than you did before, which adds up pretty quickly on those who can proc it the best.

I am a Bard OTP and have played a lot of games since the hotfix changes and can honestly say I haven't noticed a change in my gold income whatsoever and in certain cases it has gone up quite significantly instead.

xDelightifyx3 votes

You are not playing a support champ, you are playing a a midlaner abusing the support position and income system. Brand is a midlaner, he will never be a support until he will get fitting abilitys. Dmg is no support, nor is a stun that needs two spells. You are abusing the biasedness of riot towards certain champs including brand yas or irelia, just to mention a few. Ppl. like you are part of the problem botlane has. No offense, but midlaner as support should never be meta. Especially because riot gutted all conventional supports (tanks and enchanter) without providing anything in return, like it would have been done with every other champ/class. Support ontop were forced to lose one starting potion and were taken the possibilty to start pot pink. look at every single patch after 7.23. You will find nothing in favor of conventional supports. But hella loads of dmg amplifying buffs for assasines, bruisers and ap mages. Riot made conventional supports lose their position in this game and they replaced it with even more boring dmg and oneshots. Besides thresh gheres noone left. Sorry for the quality of my English. :/

Tobykachu1 votes

What? I didn't say I advocated Brand support? I am a Bard main, don't see him mid very often. I just used Brand as an example of a champion who may be found in the support role with enough damage to be a kill threat to the enemy adc and support, even if he is alone whilst his adc is dead/base.

(Your English is fine btw)

xDelightifyx2 votes

Yup mb there bro. Im sorry. But Bard and Brand can be mistaken when read fast. [zombie-brand-facepalm]

Doge20201 votes

Can we get an F in chat lol

But as a fellow supp player I agree that “muh damage lul” shouldn’t be the focus point of a supp. Poke supps I am ok with, but they should provide more than just one form of CC to help supp more (looking at brand). Zyra is a perfect example of a poke supp, she can harass easily and fulfill her role as a poke supp, but she also has her root and R to help her ADC/team when they need more CC in fights.

Rester7 votes

I'd have to agree with Toby, if this is about the Spellthief top strat it basically was non-interactive and only punished the other player for getting cs and having said bounty to capitalize on after a while.

On top of that, funneling strats are just not fun to play against.

3ternalkarma1 votes

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I'd have to agree with Toby, if this is about the Spellthief top strat it basically was non-interactive and only punished the other player for getting cs and having said bounty to capitalize on after a while.

On top of that, funneling strats are just not fun to play against.

im confused at how you consider the spellthief top non-interactive i mean they are actually fighting you... compared to the strat that was proxy singed or the inting sion strat who just ignore you and to be fair what caused the spellthief strat to begin with was the stupid bounty system for farming cs

Sir Saltarin5 votes

No, 0 cs Toplane strat or funnel strat are gone for good and I can only applaude Riot for killing those cancerous playstyles.

I'm far, really far, from being a Toplane main and it's the role I've played the least overall but I swear that I feel bad for the ones that had to play against a Top Zilean only poking whithout even farming and making you to get a huge bounty for just farming what you can.

No one deserves to play agaisnt that, this game is supposed to be funny and those strats are usually reducing the interactivity and fun of the game, similar to the funnel strat that was powerfarming Mid and Jng for the same person so after 20 mins of non interactivity the carry was 1 item and 3 levels ahead of everyone and went to stomp the game.

Diversity isn't good for the sake of being diversity.

And all the champs that got nerfed for pro play deserved the nerfs.

Tobykachu2 votes

Exactly this. If the role I play has to take a small hit so that another role isn't forced to have an absolutely miserable time then I am all for that change.

Not to mention the 'small hit' was so insignificant that in the ten or so games I've played since the hot fix I haven't noticed a change to my gold income at all.

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