Can we please buff Viktor?

Miraweave··7 votes·1,676 views

I feel like he's really not in a good spot right now. He has damage and that's just kind of all he has, and most of his damage is loaded into a super unreliable skillshot. He really struggles to actually contribute anything to his team and his damage just isn't enough to compensate for the fact that his only utility is a low ranged unreliable stun. He's immobile and incredibly weak to anyone who jumps on him because he doesn't even have immediate CC to deal with them. Like Zed just ults you and ults out before your stun sets in, and it's the same with every other assassin.

Given Viktor's incredibly high skillcap, I feel like he should be a bit more rewarding to play. I would suggest making the first part of his Q do an actually decent amount of damage, and make his W augment increase the cast range again, and lower the delay from 1.5 seconds to 1. This will mean that his kit isn't totally fucked by mobile champions since he'll have more range to deal with them, and not all of his damage will be in a super unreliable skillshot that anyone with a dash would have to be asleep to get hit by.

TL;DR Viktor's damage doesn't really justify his subpar utility and unreliability. I think that by buffing his reliability and utility just a bit we can make him an actually viable pick.

16 Comments

M Schumacher5 votes

Yeah Viktor is garbage I regularly see him getting owned by freelo mid laners like Galio and the freelo phoenix Anivia.

Buff Viktor pls Riot.

NoMonku4 votes

Viktor is incredibly oppressive in lane if the player using him knows what they are doing. His Q is guarenteed damage and chunks hard while his E can do guaranteed damage if you cast it directly on them. While he doesn't have as much up front damage like some other champions, he has incredible zoning ability with his W, making engaging onto him a lot harder for other teams. You just need to learn to use his strengths and stop trying to play him like Annie.

Scrooch McSucc2 votes

"if the player using him knows what they are doing" has got to be the most overused bullshit reason against buffs.

Agent20902 votes

Because a player that doesn't know what they are doing should still be able to destroy with a champion.

Instead of, oh I don't know, learning a champion so they know what they are doing?

Scrooch McSucc1 votes

K well when you want to teach this person and myself how to play Viktor let us know when and where. Until then, you're not that helpful.

Agent20902 votes

I'm not trying to be helpful, so I have no clue where you got that idea, I'm making a point.

Let me give you an example here, because it seems that you are thinking something rather silly. I can't use Thresh. I completely suck with him. When I play Thresh, he seems like the weakest champion in the game. Because I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing.

Because of this, I think Thresh deserves a buff.

...Do you not see how silly that sounds? Thresh is arguably the strongest support in the game, but with someone that doesn't know what they are doing he's going to seem weak.

Viktor is the same. If you don't know what you are doing, he seems weak. If you do know what you are doing, he's very, very oppressive in lane, pushing out pretty much every assassin and many mages, and his insane burst damage can completely destroy teams in teamfights.

So before whining and crying that a champion is weak, people should learn to actually play that champion first.

AyRe CoNteMpT4 votes

victor is SUPER powerful right now, you kidding?

BeatzBoyFTW4 votes

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I feel like he's really **not in a good spot right now. **

**not in a good spot right now... **

**not in a good spot right now...... **

**not in a good spot right now.......... **


He has damage and that's just kind of all he has, and most of his damage is loaded into a super unreliable skillshot.

super unreliable skillshot...

super unreliable skillshot......

super unreliable skillshot............

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Dunkmaster Don2 votes

Viktor is fine where he is right now. He has massive aoe damage and zoning, especially once he gets a few of his core items.

thinking man2 votes

make his autos have an ap scaling because they shoot from the same thing that his laser shoots from.

Miraweave1 votes

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make his autos have an ap scaling because they shoot from the same thing that his laser shoots from.

+1 amazing idea. Make every autoattack be his Q.

ModIts Yuu and Mi1 votes

Ya +1

Scrooch McSucc1 votes

Personally, I feel Vik's E is one of those things where you can't change how it's fired. It's pretty much Viktor saying "this is my thing go find your own." W definitely needs that range buff and the stun should kick in sooner.

UdoIkOSc4u1 votes

slowpoke jpg

Aaravos1 votes

rito please buff him

PythianSibyl1 votes

I don't think a dam range buff would do a thing. He is fine as he is tho the W does seem to take a bit to stun. can it be really fair? I mean imagine it upgraded, stun then pulled to center. It would be GLORIOUS lol don't get me wrong. Love using Viktor, puts zed on a leash. But yes a buff to something would be nice. But it would be a lie to say he is falling behind. Tho Annie's face rolling along with those recently buffer champs

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