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Khazix Evolve Skills

ForFoxSakes··1 votes·5,161 views

Reading a lot of guides and they're saying to go R first obviously, but then for 2nd and 3rd it's W and E or E and W. Why not take evolved Q? Ive been going R Q E and great success, but not sure the logic on the others picks.

R for map control, invis, ganking and basically so much about what makes him OP. Q for even more OP damage where I can pop out of a bush, Q-AA-W-Q to kill almost anyone and have insanely strong invades, E last for when people group later on I can get in to kill a target then get out

I really dont see the benefit of evolving W. It adds double slow on isolated targets, but I'd rather kill the target than have a longer slow, and if they target tries to get away I have a leap and many movement speed buffs to run them down. It doesn't add more damage either. Has a wider range for teamfighting, but I'm more there to pick a key target then get out rather than trying to be an AoE teamfighter, so why evolve it? What am I missing?

7 Comments

Timethief491 votes

You have enough damage, the partial cd reset is no good enough compared to aoe slow, jump cd reset. W helps in catching targets that run. If you get to them you kill them you dont need the evolved q to do that. If you do you are doing something wrong.

ForFoxSakes1 votes

But if someone survives your opening combo you'd be open to higher return damage for 2 seconds than if you could land another Q to pop them. Plus the 2 sec Q CD lines up pretty well with the 1.5 sec invis to combo again with R

W would just help if they're trying to run away, but if theyre trying to kill you it wont help kill them any faster. I dont think it's too useful for running away either when you can just run through a bush to invis out or leap out right?

https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/NA1/49775669 is listed as the highest Khazix main and he seems to Q evolve 2nd too :/

Enderspider1 votes

evolved q might be useful last for the extra range but thats about it. W increases the hitbox and range of your w by a large amount and give it really big slow on isolated targets. this makes it easier to land and chase targets that get away after your burst. It's also very useful late game when trying to poke down targets before diving in for the kill secure I recommend evolving E second either way though, the reset is in my opinion too good to miss out on mid game

for some reason, 90% of kha players(that i see) still evolve q first even though it's maybe even his weakest evolve at the moment

ForFoxSakes1 votes

I'm still not convinced it's his weakest. It significantly increases his sustained damage on isolated targets which will let him blow up bruisers, tanks, dragons, RH, baron and jungle camps too whereas W just lets you AoE a bit more but doesnt increase your clear speed since W AoE is the same on jungle camps whether its a single bolt or 3

Enderspider1 votes

Well late game the chances of catching someone isolated are really small that's why W is usually better. I forgot about dragon and baron though, those should go faster yeah

Gibberwatt1 votes

I feel like it depends on the game - I personally am fairly new to kha, but I find that his q does the boom on isolated targets really well, but doesn't do so hot in teamfights. So in games where you spend most of your time running around chasing nubs down (#bronze), the q evolve will work well. But in games where everyone gets spooked and runs around as a pack or buddy system the W might be better for being a little bitch without actually jumping in and dying.

Alex h87211 votes

Im also a big fan of the R>Q>E evolve order, W 3rd can be good too if the enemy team has a lot of peel b/c the slow on isolated targets is pretty big so gives him some utility if he can't easily get in for assassinations.

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