Why Does Ludens Proc Spellshield?

hhaavviikk·12/6/2019, 12:50:08 PM·19 votes·10,783 views

Was up against a malphite in ARAM, they also had oriana, morgana, diana and vel`koz, I thought ok I'll buy the AD version of a spellshield so malphite can't ult me, spellshield proceeds to be useless as their ludens constantly proc my spellshield making it worthless, they hit a minion with a spellm, ludens then goes to me and it pops my spellshield, or they hit a team mate and it happens, seriously can this be gotten rid of? it makes spellshield completely worthless.

39 Comments

DuskDaUmbreon12/6/2019, 1:04:18 PM18 votes

Because it's a spell effect. The same reason it can proc Comet.

Lazyfae12/6/2019, 4:41:01 PM8 votes

I can support that. Really sucks to have spell shield, dodge 5 consecutive spells in a row, vel'koz in particular tends to be predictable most the time, and then your friend walks up behind you and gets hit, boom shield gone and here comes their cc train engage. Punishing players who get it because they know what they're doing, and dodge while using it to block the cc and insta dash/warp engages, just because your team sucks, is a horrible setup. Like, i can get an aoe you run into, but not a bounce off a team mate from a spell you'd already dodged.

Darkdemon65312/6/2019, 4:51:53 PM4 votes

Despite being an item passive, it's treated as though it's an active. Item actives are spells. As for why it's considered an active, I don't think Riot has said anything on the matter. It's just one of the myriad exceptions when it comes to mechanics and classifications in this game.

Sirsir12/6/2019, 6:31:01 PM3 votes

Or Comet

Or Rylais (wait did they fix that yet?)

The thigh guy12/7/2019, 1:14:26 AM3 votes

My question is why does this stupid item still apply spell effects.

DeathBurst12/6/2019, 6:53:16 PM2 votes

I mean, why would it NOT proc spell shields? It would be ridiculous to die from a Luden's proc with a spellshield still active...

Everyday Legends12/6/2019, 4:38:33 PM2 votes

Maybe don't build spellshield into Luden's?

P0IS0N IVY12/6/2019, 8:22:26 PM2 votes

Imo, ludens is the thing that needs to be reworked. I dunno why my health bar needs to be punished when a teammate gets hit.

Original Sin12/6/2019, 9:43:00 PM1 votes

not much you can do against ap malphite in aram. build some mr items idk

no counterplay to 30 second oneshot

Z3SIeeper12/7/2019, 1:10:38 AM1 votes

What if Banshees/EoN didn’t have a 40s cd?

MrEnds12/6/2019, 6:14:28 PM1 votes

it procs spell shield because it's magic damage that was caused by a spell

Saezio12/7/2019, 2:58:42 PM1 votes

They need to make it be. "The first spell that would deal more than X amount of damage is blocked" And maybe add a clause about if the spell damage is less than X but would kill, it is also blocked.

LordGeovanni12/8/2019, 1:54:29 AM1 votes

frankly items effects should be consumed by spell shields (not the other way around) until a spell effect breaks its. on the other hand it feels bad that tanks got their spell shield taken away because riot gutted it by needing you to be out of combat as if the enemy cant see that the enemy had banshees. then said tanks werent using anyway because we told the melee ranged front liners they had to be out of combat for 40 seconds lets give it to mages then puts more stats on it than tanks ever had for the same amount of gold.