Has Riot made some changes to Kassadin I'm not aware of?

GastonBarnacles·Nov 24, 2015·2 votes·1,014 views

He seems to be a bit too strong now. I have seen Kassadins with only ROA ulting 5 times and still having 1/3 of their mana left. Also his shield and e seem to be stronger..

18 Comments

Earl EulrichNov 24, 20152 votes

teams are squishier so it does matter less that he needs 5-7combos to hurt a tanky opponent - if the opponent knows how to abuse his many weaknesses he still needs a long time before he gets threatening...

Lost In TimeNov 24, 20151 votes

Been this way for a while.

Kassadin has been far from weak

Actually xPekeNov 24, 20151 votes

And far from broken.

MLDzXnRRRNov 24, 20151 votes

All the AP items were nerfed. Other mages are weaker, Kassa still does no dmg until lategame.

ProfDrDeathNov 24, 20151 votes

5.16 and 5.21 saw Kassadin buffs.

5.16 gave him an AP ratio on his ult again, 0.2 base and 0.1 per stack.

5.21 reduced W's CD to 7 from 9 and increased the AP ratio from 0.6 to 0.7.

At this rate, he'll be permaban in Spring, again.

AlldaySkandiNov 24, 20151 votes

my first game as kassadin went 29-9,farmed early game got a roa,late game killed and i was like oh shit! ,one of the only viable assasins that can destroy in teamfights,ult e zhonyas,rinse repeat penta.late game you can 1v1 Anyone and team fight ,you can even kill tanks ,tanks will chase ,you do your full rotation about twice while kiting with riftwalk,then riftwalk in their face and wreck

Actually xPekeNov 24, 20152 votes

wow. because ONE game is enough material to decide if a champion is OP or UP

AlldaySkandiNov 24, 20151 votes

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Actually xPekeNov 24, 20151 votes

No. i'm not being a douchebag. I'm saying that 1 single game is not enough for you to make a personal opinion. The enemy may have had a bad game, or you just a really good game. 1 game doesn't display the power of a champion. Heck i have seen Urgots go 10/2 but does that mean he's strong? No.

Pro / Competive play is also way different. They know how to abuse Kassadins mobility. but there's no point in trying to compare to the top 1% of League Community when much more are around Bronze/Silver/Gold

AlldaySkandiNov 24, 20151 votes

im not high elo or a pro ,but i main mid ,ive just started playing league this year ,my main champs are ahri,diana ,leblanc and situationally ekko ,i could tell when i started playing kassadin that he is strong for various very simple reasons 1. hes mix of mobility and high damage ,i enjoy champs like these as you can see from my mains ,playing kassadin felt familiar to my champs in the high mobility damage category but what immediately stuck out as being strong was hes ult ,the ability to engage and disengage ,chase,pick fights at such a low cooldown while doing damage,champs like leblanc and ahri also do this but with much higher cooldowns 2.The ability to teamfight so well,with hes aoe e and ult kassadin is really good at teamfighting ,not many assasins can teamfight and 1v1 as well as him 3.Hes insane late game scaling 4.plus the ability to somewhat counter ap mids Now tell me,are these 4 factors not a strong combination ?

is kassadin not an extremely mobile champ capabale of team fighting and assassinating ? is the fact that such a new player could immediately see these clear strengths not a sign that kassadin is indeed strong ? is kassadin strong in pro play and in solo que?

kassadin is not without weaknesses though ,hes weak early game ,hes laning phase is hell against ad ,hes lack of waveclar,hes incapibility to split push ( not really a weakness as split pushing assassins are a rarity like diana )

being the experienced league of legends player you are im sure you can agree that kassadin is indeed a strong champion and maybe one of the strongest mids if used correctly as we see at the highest level

please correct me if im wrong

Actually xPekeNov 24, 20151 votes

Yes, he's strong at higher levels of play. But his damage isn't that high. His Q has an insanely low base damage of 170 at lvl 5. with only a decent AP scaling. His W is decent too. same for E

He's just great at killing squishies like every Assassin. but lacks the burst that champions like Diana, and Le Blanc have. There's not really a reason to pick Kassadin over other Assassins in low ELO: you barely have lane pressure because your poke sucks and you can't really engage pre 6. Combine this with being melee and you get a shitty laning phase. and kassadin isn't tanky either. while some other assassins have lane pressure pre 6. or mobility/escapes pre 6. kassadin does not.

Take diana for example, she isn't as "safe" as kassadin. but has more chase potential, and burst potential.

In higher elo's. they can combine what you all named, while playing safe. this is why Kassadin is so strong in higher elo's, but again. the game shouldn't be balanced around that specifically

AlldaySkandiNov 24, 20151 votes

is there really a need to be a douchebag? i was just displaying the power kassadin has even for a first time user,dont trust me look at pro play recently,there where a few kassadin bans at iem ,poe wrecked with him and got a triple ,even at worlds kassadin performed well (pawn especially) with 7 wins and 2 lossess, the next best performing assasin is leblanc with 11 wins and 7 losses,no doubt hes strong not in pro play but also in soloque,as i mentioned one of the only assasins to have strong teamfighting and solo fighting ,insane mobility,counters ap champs,soft engage and cc not to mention the best late game scaling mid Hes not op ,hes just strong

AlldaySkandiNov 24, 20151 votes

why go around being smart and sarcastic and shit talking on the boards when people are trying to have a normal conversation ,lol relax bro ,the world isnt out to get you my friend

LadyRenlyNov 24, 20151 votes

Only his W and R got changed. Nothing happened to his q or e.

He is not "too strong", he does no damage to people who stack MR, he is melee and his damage is primarily single target with small AOE from ult and E.

I'm not saying he is weak, but he is justified to have the strengths that he does because of all the shortcomings that come with it.

Actually xPekeNov 24, 20151 votes

Your bullshitting, not even thought of looking up facts?

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I have seen Kassadins with only ROA ulting 5 times and still having 1/3 of their mana left.

Total cost of Kassadin ulting 5 times is 1550 mana. with the stack up. So yea unless you wanna say that kassadin has 4650 mana with just a ROA that's way more than 33% of his mana gone

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Also his shield and e seem to be stronger..

His shield and E didn't get a single buff this entire season. W and R did though. Kassadin is by far not broken when you have champions like Le Blanc and Lee Sin

insaiyanbaccaNov 24, 20151 votes

he got some minor buffs to his damage. but whats really helping him right now is, one mages are really popular mid rn outside of yas and ehs an anti mage, and two alot of team comps are super squishy so he doesnt need to do as much damage to deal with alot of them