Shyvana has AD scaling magic damage; can Udyr have, too?

Frontline Fury··1 votes·1,132 views

Shyvana is currently entering the meta because of her extreme synergy with hybrid ad/hp items, her passive that gives armor/magic resist (which udyr's turtle stance ought to, too) and her AD scaling magic damage (resulting in her easily dealing 60% physical 40% magic damage when building pure AD/HP items).

Can Udyr's phoenix stance have AD scaling as well?

5 Comments

Yenn2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Frontline Fury,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=I5yEUdtY,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-12-08T04:22:46.672+0000)

Shyvana is currently entering the meta because of her extreme synergy with hybrid ad/hp items, her passive that gives armor/magic resist (which udyr's turtle stance ought to, too) and her AD scaling magic damage (resulting in her easily dealing 60% physical 40% magic damage when building pure AD/HP items).

Can Udyr's phoenix stance have AD scaling as well?

This wouldn't do anything to help Udyr, and it doesn't really do anything to make Shyvana 'meta' or a good pick in the current state of the game. You need to be able to quickly 100 to 0 your target in the early game to be viable in the jungle, so Tiger would still be superior even if Phoenix had AD scaling.

Udyr's current problem is that he's hard countered by half the roster and has absolutely no late game beyond AFK split pushing, it's not really a damage issue.

Woodakoodashooda1 votes

Phoenix stance is for those rare occasions a player decides to go AP Udyr.

If anything were to be done to Udyr, I'd love to see his Phoenix Stance changed so that it synergizes with his other abilities. But, at the same time, I fear such a change would make him unbelievably broken to the point that Riot would nerf him into oblivion.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

What we need to do is add more AP Bruiser items so it's actually viable for Udyr to go AP over his current AD build.

Frontline Fury1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=I5yEUdtY,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-12-08T11:03:34.491+0000)

What we need to do is add more AP Bruiser items so it's actually viable for Udyr to go AP over his current AD build.

Please, no. We're already having an issue with Viktor - give him access to specialized AP items and you'll only ever see mages like him played.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Frontline Fury,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=I5yEUdtY,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-12-08T11:22:20.768+0000)

Please, no. We're already having an issue with Viktor - give him access to specialized AP items and you'll only ever see mages like him played.

Easy solution. Make them melee only.

More from Gameplay

More by Frontline Fury