Ekko mid (ap ekko) has the lowest winrate. In mid.

MunchCrunchLunch··2 votes·977 views

with a whopping 46% winrate. ekko has the lowest winrate in the mid lane position this patch. any thoughts rito? now tank ekko needed nerfs (even though I thought that most of his damage was gone after the first nerf). it was about the utility and now that got nerfed in general too. how are you gonna compensate ap ekko?. nobody really gives a shit about an increase in the ult damage because 99% of the time your ult isn't going to be used to do damage at least not in an assassin way. hes just too squishy to play full ap. and he does no damage unless he goes full ap compared to other assassins. can we give him some compensation buffs or changes? I mean are we gonna give kindred a compensation buff or two for every nerf and we can't give ekko?

just please give us a new ultimate because playing around it is too damn easy.

now according to the champion subclass listing ekko is a skirmisher just like

Fiora Riven Yasuo Tryndamere Master Yi Jax Ekko

now all of these champions are played in top lane. and are ad. means. sustained damage. now you nerfed ekko's passive. he doesn't really have the sustained damage anymore. it wasn't on par with an ad champion and now it sure as hell isn't.fizz ourbursts and outtrades him in melee.

am fine with ekko not being really all that reliable of an assassin compared to other choices. but hes too damn squishy with no sustained damage. and the only ap skirmisher in the game. i dont understand what you will do but i hope we can play him and not abuse him as a tank.

his shield. is unreliable. it has a delay. and it lasts as long as the stun. so most of the time you take no advantage of it. and even if you do. its not spammable to make a difference like riven's shield. his E is an aa reset. with quite possibly the longest delay on an aa rest in the game. the animation is too long. the dash is nice but thats about it.

his Q is only viable at point blank ranges and the damage is meh unless you proc your passive. I don't understand his kit personally.

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Calabok2 votes

no, you cannot have Tank Ekko back again. AP Ekko is here to stay.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

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no, you cannot have Tank Ekko back again. AP Ekko is here to stay.

did you fucking read what i said? what ap ekko. you mean shit ekko? its shit. thats why they don't play him as ap because ap ekko is plain garbage.

Defended2 votes

Negative win rate means nothing. Ryze has a 45% win rate but is the #1 most unfair champion in the game with a 50% bann rate

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

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Negative win rate means nothing. Ryze has a 45% win rate but is the #1 most unfair champion in the game with a 50% bann rate

because ryze is. ekko tank. is. but ap ekko is just bad. as simple as it is. ryze. is a design flaw in terms that hes unfair. ekko's design. is that. hes just bad the way hes meant to be played which is an ap assassin. it jsut doesn't work

stealthfox941 votes

I think Ekko's true role should be AP bruiser.

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

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I think Ekko's true role should be AP bruiser.

he needs sustained damage for that to be a thing. bruiser fizz is better because of his W.

stealthfox941 votes

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he needs sustained damage for that to be a thing. bruiser fizz is better because of his W.

His passive does give him some sustained damage.

C9 Scott Free 1 votes

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I think Ekko's true role should be AP bruiser.

People keep using this term and it has no meaning. AD Bruiser builds like a hydra or cleaver then tank. That doesn't work for AP champs because AP champs are reliant on spells too much. "AP Bruiser" just means a tank that doesn't benefit from AD itemization and deals magic damage. Even ROA Maokai is just viewed as a tank cuz we all know thats what he is

stealthfox941 votes

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People keep using this term and it has no meaning. AD Bruiser builds like a hydra or cleaver then tank. That doesn't work for AP champs because AP champs are reliant on spells too much. "AP Bruiser" just means a tank that doesn't benefit from AD itemization and deals magic damage. Even ROA Maokai is just viewed as a tank cuz we all know thats what he is

item 3027 item 3116 item 3001 item 3068 is this not by definition an ap bruiser build?

Calabok1 votes

RIOT has decided though. NO amount of whining will help. Glory days are over. Embrace the AP.

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

Ekko's Q deals no dmg, unless the enemies lag or something... His R needs setup. Now have squishy assasin with 3 unreliable abilities (Q,W and R) that relies on the stupidity of the enemy team to do anything.

ReZisT Lust1 votes

i usually get nashors wits now on him followed by situational items like a hat and mask

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

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i usually get nashors wits now on him followed by situational items like a hat and mask

who the fuck are you gonna fight with with that build. someone 4 levels behind you? how bad does a melee carry or an adc have to be to die to you when they can 3 shot you with that build. meanwhile your autos do like 100 damage

ReZisT Lust1 votes

i fight whoever is the lowest in team fights cause you know hp% dmg along with burn and enough autos to constantly apply and 100 dmg autos goes a long way man, also helps with the split pushing cause you know faster tower smacks and wave clear

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

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i fight whoever is the lowest in team fights cause you know hp% dmg along with burn and enough autos to constantly apply and 100 dmg autos goes a long way man, also helps with the split pushing cause you know faster tower smacks and wave clear

what what %health damage when you don't have much ap. you will insta die with that build before you do jack shit in an even fight

ReZisT Lust1 votes

ok so the full build would go item 3151 item 3027 item 3115 item 3091 item 3089 item 3020 which would have 513 ap, not counting runes and the magic resistance steal from wits and sorc boots' magic pen

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

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ok so the full build would go item 3151 item 3027 item 3115 item 3091 item 3089 item 3020 which would have 513 ap, not counting runes and the maic resistance steal from wits and sorc boots' magic pen

yep all it takes is 3 autos from the enemy vayne. i think a vayne can kill you in under 2 seconds. lol

ReZisT Lust1 votes

she also has to get through your team and shield, and if theres a vayne then youd never get the roa thats just suicide lol silly goose item 3146 that should heal you up a bit enough to live a bit and also extra burst from the active

TBF Zagros1 votes

Just consider that Kassadin is another AP assassin and deas way less damage and has no utility compared to Ekko

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

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Just consider that Kassadin is another AP assassin and deas way less damage and has no utility compared to Ekko

kassadin is more sticky. plus his AA reset hurts more. also at least he can use his ult to do some damage. you have to understand ekko cant use his ult to do instant damage like that

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