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ELO HELL IS REAL. STOP SAYING IT ISNT.

it be lìke that··6 votes·4,743 views

Every game someone feeds, my team or theirs, usually mine if im honest. I lack the ability to carry every single game on my back without an unusually lucky start, im not a diamond tier i shouldnt be expected to carry awfulness. I genuinely don't understand the que system and would love some literature to read up on it.

Its my first season, first off was climbing always this hard? Im silver 5 and falling fast, every game is a throw one side or another. Feeders dont seem to care because as long as they arent being too toxic they are pretty much safe from any penalty.

At the same time though, there are people who genuinely want to learn how to play better and get to higher ranks. Seems like bronze + silver + gold thrown into 1 competitive bracket is just no bueno. Bronze feeds, gold tilts, silver doesnt know what to do about the previous two. Then you know how it goes, "gg ff at 20 guys"

I just want to climb, i even lost a 7-1 game as hecarim. I just dont get it. How do you claw back from a teammate feeding early?

59 Comments

Sukishoo9 votes

It isn't. It's All elos [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Spicy Rice5 votes

^

Get rekt

it be lìke that1 votes

{quoted}

^

Get rekt

gold 5. so again, still in the same elo as me, how can you speak for others?

SailorPsycho5 votes

You're silver 5, he's gold 5 there's a major difference there you're not at all the same kid.

it be lìke that1 votes

no there isnt tho? i could que into him in game, that makes it zero difference.

Flaherty4 votes

There's an extremely low chance you will queue with someone an entire tier above/below you

it be lìke that1 votes

[{quoted}](name=O Flayherty ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Hzu5WAEW,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-14T02:47:20.566+0000)

There's an extremely low chance you will queue with someone an entire tier above/below you

yet its still there, i play against current golds often. whats the difference? if you can que into them you are being categorized as the same skill level? and if they dont consider it the same skill level, then its a blatant advantage and throws off the balance of low elo play.

Flaherty3 votes

Yeah I looked into your last game and you did play against 2 golds, it also says your MMR is really high for your ranking which is why your opponents are that much higher than you. That's the opposite of elo hell since you will climb really fast if you manage to win some games.

SailorPsycho3 votes

No you wouldn't. Unless you queued together there is like a 2% chance you'd ever run into someone that is a Tier above you unless your MMR actuall matches theirs. Which in that case either they'd have Silver 5 MMR for being gold (BAD) or you'd (unlikely) have Gold 5 MMR for being Silver 5.

Spicy Rice1 votes

How about this, I've tilted from gold 1 with 2 wins into play promos

it be lìke that1 votes

{quoted}

It isn't. It's All elos [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

you are only silver 3 though and the highest rank you achieved was gold 4. How can you speak for other elos?

Sukishoo4 votes

lolz. how do you know this is my main? it could be a smurf? I play with many plats & diamonds daily, so I know.

ShinkoMinori1 votes

You didn't achieve gold last season...

Sukishoo3 votes

lol. That's you're reasoning? Ever heard of taking a break? I didn't feel like climbing so I left it.

ShinkoMinori1 votes

Sounds like a lame excuse for not being able to achieve gold last season, you got silver, you are still silver right now.

Sukishoo3 votes

You really are unintelligent aren't you? If you look at my History you can see I haven't played Ranked since I placed and that was MONTHS ago. I just wanted to keep some kind of Border.

ShinkoMinori1 votes

you won 4 and lost 7, that means you played 10 placements and lost 1 game afterwards.

Sukishoo2 votes

Still doesn't change the fact it was MONTHS ago.

ShinkoMinori1 votes

Seeing as how you play normals a lot and with another silver as a duo...

What is your excuse for not playing ranked?

Meowscratch2 votes

well lets see the people in ranked are asssholes who think this is the world cup. normals you can do all types of fuckkery

it be lìke that1 votes

{quoted}

lolz. how do you know this is my main? it could be a smurf? I play with many plats & diamonds daily, so I know.

so really? this is a valid point now "i have friends man!!! they tell me stuff!!! i swear!" lmfao

EVD Ghost1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bish im saucin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Hzu5WAEW,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2016-07-14T02:37:19.927+0000)

you are only silver 3 though and the highest rank you achieved was gold 4. How can you speak for other elos?

I'll speak for him. Its true

Powderkegg4 votes

How would smurfs exist if elo hell existed.

ShinkoMinori1 votes

elo hell is only for those not in the 3% of actually good players.

it be lìke that1 votes

lol and you are gold 5 as well.

ShinkoMinori2 votes

I am not in the 3% :c

it be lìke that1 votes

like i said a diamond tier player who has been playing for years should have no problem carrying bad players. that argument makes no sense.

You dont get better by playing against diamond players while you are silver, and you dont get better by someone feeding and throwing every game.

You get better by playing people in YOUR skill range.

SailorPsycho2 votes

No, you said in your post

im not a diamond tier i shouldnt be expected to carry awfulness.

so stop lying and trying to change what you said, you're not Diamond at all.

it be lìke that1 votes

what the hell are you talking about? Do you have problems reading? i never said i was diamond lmfao.

Read the previous replies to what i said. LOL im laughing so hard right now. are all the forum warriors as intelligent as this one?

Powderkegg5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bish im saucin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Hzu5WAEW,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2016-07-14T02:41:48.166+0000)

like i said a diamond tier player who has been playing for years should have no problem carrying bad players. that argument makes no sense.

You dont get better by playing against diamond players while you are silver, and you dont get better by someone feeding and throwing every game.

You get better by playing people in YOUR skill range.

Exactly, you just proved elo hell doesn't exist. A silver player can carry bronze games, a gold player will carry silver games, a diamond level player will have no problem carrying low elo games. If you can't carry silver games what elo are you in, bronze. If you can't carry gold level games what elo are you in, silver. See where this is going.

it be lìke that2 votes

WHERE IS THE LOGIC IN ANYTHING YOU JUST SAID LMFAO.

Being the better player by a slim margain doesnt help you carry games where someone is 0-5 in 10 minutes?

60% of games are decided before minute 20, you dont see an issue with that?

Blind.

SailorPsycho2 votes

Yeah does. I've been in games with Diamond smurfs where someone on our team was 0/5 in 10 minutes and the Smurf could still easily carry us out.

Powderkegg1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bish im saucin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Hzu5WAEW,comment-id=0004000100020000,timestamp=2016-07-14T02:50:29.314+0000)

WHERE IS THE LOGIC IN ANYTHING YOU JUST SAID LMFAO.

Being the better player by a slim margain doesnt help you carry games where someone is 0-5 in 10 minutes?

60% of games are decided before minute 20, you dont see an issue with that?

Blind.

Oh man, I should have known you were one of those baby-raging 12 year olds. Let me try to put it in words even someone as small minded and narcissistic as you will understand.

GIT GOOD XXXXXDDDDDD!!!!

Teqqvenom1 votes

A silver player will do really good in bronze but it doesn't change the fact that he will still lose more than he should because he'll get the occasional unlucky game where the rest of his team is feeding and arguing. I don't think elo hell exists but its still really annoying when you go 16/8/15 as hecarim and somehow you still lose. Yes, I made mistakes that I could fix but if I go 16-8 I'd generally expect to win, idk. It sucks because I like the game, but games like that make me rethink my decisions of even bothering putting time into this game.

also sorry, this is an old thread

EVD Ghost1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bish im saucin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Hzu5WAEW,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2016-07-14T02:41:48.166+0000)

like i said a diamond tier player who has been playing for years should have no problem carrying bad players. that argument makes no sense.

You dont get better by playing against diamond players while you are silver, and you dont get better by someone feeding and throwing every game.

You get better by playing people in YOUR skill range.

Yes, so get good and you'll be out of there.

it be lìke that1 votes

lol so apparently the forums are a joke because all the people commenting haven't even made it to high elo once in there 4 seasons.

Makes sense.

lol so this why the league forum community gets ripped on.

ShinkoMinori3 votes

The league boards are a joke in general, the only ones that actually stay here are riotfanboys that don't know how to use reddit, go to reddit instead.

it be lìke that2 votes

{quoted}

The league boards are a joke in general, the only ones that actually stay here are riotfanboys that don't know how to use reddit, go to reddit instead.

thanks for the advice.

DREADN0UGHT6 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bish im saucin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Hzu5WAEW,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2016-07-14T02:40:34.853+0000)

lol so apparently the forums are a joke because all the people commenting haven't even made it to high elo once in there 4 seasons.

Makes sense.

lol so this why the league forum community gets ripped on.

Are you saying that their opinions don't matter because they are not/never have been ''high elo''? Cuz if that is the case, I guess we can dismiss your claim that elo hell is real, since you are Silver 5.

it be lìke that1 votes

{quoted}

Are you saying that their opinions don't matter because they are not/never have been ''high elo''? Cuz if that is the case, I guess we can dismiss your claim that elo hell is real, since you are Silver 5.

I can back up my elo hell debate, i have debunked everything on this thread so far, take your best shot.

Im open to intelligent debates, even though no one else seems to be.

I am actually in the elo i claim to be hell, you are all defending elos you have never obtained. See the difference?

DREADN0UGHT3 votes

I'm in plat 5 currently. I was bronze 5 in season 3. I got out of there alone.

Anything else?

bloodybadger11 votes

You don't have to be diamond to get out of silver 5...

If you are gold material you can still get out of silver if you know how. This requires playing more pivotal positions and/or champions since you are in fact not diamond. I'm sure someone who was challenger could get out of silver 5 with ap ashe or tank veigar. Pls stop complaining about elo hell and realize if you are in elo hell then you are plateauing or you haven't played enough ranked games yet.

Then again, a challenger or diamond or hell even most plats wouldn't be placed into silver...

And don't try telling me my opinion isn't credible because i'm not "high" elo because that is just a cop out in an attempt to not have to explain why my opinion is wrong. Plus even high gold is greater than 90% of the player base and im higher than high gold...

at least you have a cool name...

UltraGigaNiga1 votes

{quoted}

Then again, a challenger or diamond or hell even plat wouldn't be placed into silver...

Bro don't make me feel bad like that, I got two of my smurfs placed into silver 2 and 1 respectively :(

bloodybadger11 votes

dang, well you can still be unlucky lol. i am plat and i played on another account and am expecting to place high gold on a new unranked account. trying to win all 10 placements =P but my first ranked season (last season) i climbed through silver in under 100 games with most of my games in silver 5 and silver 1 (dam promos). The middle of silver seems to be the easiest to me.

Communist Toast1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bish im saucin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Hzu5WAEW,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-07-14T02:29:11.107+0000)

Every game someone feeds, my team or theirs, usually mine if im honest. I lack the ability to carry every single game on my back without an unusually lucky start, im not a diamond tier i shouldnt be expected to carry awfulness. I genuinely don't understand the que system and would love some literature to read up on it.

Its my first season, first off was climbing always this hard? Im silver 5 and falling fast, every game is a throw one side or another. Feeders dont seem to care because as long as they arent being too toxic they are pretty much safe from any penalty.

At the same time though, there are people who genuinely want to learn how to play better and get to higher ranks. Seems like bronze + silver + gold thrown into 1 competitive bracket is just no bueno. Bronze feeds, gold tilts, silver doesnt know what to do about the previous two. Then you know how it goes, "gg ff at 20 guys"

I just want to climb, i even lost a 7-1 game as hecarim. I just dont get it. How do you claw back from a teammate feeding early?

looking at your match history, it looks like you feed for half of your games

it be lìke that1 votes

tbf thats pretty hard to determine who "feeds" and who gets caught out in the slaughter later on, look at those landslide carry wins? thats because no one fed and i was able to carry.

Rankings at the end are subjective since you never know who could be the one who threw the game. Sweet insults though man!

Jesus Is My King1 votes

It's not hard to get out of bronze. Promise

Xeruon1 votes

TL;DR: "EVERYONE ALWAYS FEEDS, I NEVER DO ANYTHING WRONG! I DESERVE CHALLENJOUR AND TO RISE ABOVE ALL OF YOUR BRONZE AND SILVER PLEBS!"

Honestly people like you who think ranking is everything, and blame everything on their teammates, while at the same time being completely blind to the fact that they are not flawless players, shouldn't be wondering why they can't climb.

ELO hell doesn't exist. It's an excuse made up by people who can't accept they aren't as good as they think they are, much like you.

If you really want to rank up, jump on the DynBoost train and get a high-elo friend to carry you to plat, or if you have any decency just skip out on ranked entirely this season.

Inkling Commando1 votes

it is only ELO hell if you are suffering. for those who don't do ranked or are happy in bronze we are not suffering and therefore not in ELO hell.

Deliberate Inter1 votes

I mean, games are usually decided in the draft phase N i mean , big but you can try a little but that not change

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