The ONE change Mordekaiser needs if he's going to be at least decent in solo lanes

Malicious Metal··70 votes·3,065 views

Give us our bloody harvester of Sorrow. You've already sown quite a bit of sorrow in the Mordekaiser player base, harvest it and convert it into this tiny little "buff". It won't even make him stronger in your (imo kinda silly) preferred role as a bot lane bruiser but still give him the gentle nudge he will most definitely need to be as fun/strong/good as he was prior to his rework. To clarify why he needs the W: -You hit his E extremely hard, making his wave clear pitiful with the lack of other AoE in his kit(Q being single target) He has no access to it solo so he won't be able to push anywhere near as hard as other top laners.

-It gives him back some more consistent means to gain shield when not already bashing someone's head in (m8) and the heal might just be what he'll need to disregard spellvamp and build straight into his essential items. Let's be honest here, you not only hurt his early game damage but didn't bother lowering his health costs, making you feel as if you hurt yourself more than your enemy when using your spells.

-It literally doesn't affect DuoKaiser at ALL. The AoE damage is still only doubled when the two shrouds touch, favoring using it on your allies regardless. If you feel he gets too much free heals out of the ability simply give it a health cost when used on himself.

-It had a more symbolic meaning. Just like Versailles had after the first world war; it shows us solo laners just how much you seem to hate the idea of letting us play him as a solo steamroller and makes us feel unloved T^T

Just my two cents though, I'll be spamming my main man Morde 24/7 after the patch so that I can confirm my doubts on the effectiveness of SoloKaiser. ~M.M

EDIT: After playing a few games with the new Mordekaiser I can only confirm this to be true. The only thing holding him back to be actually kinda good in top is him being unable to cast Harvester of Sorrow onto himself! I've had some rather tough matchups up there and at times I wished I could latch the damage shroud unto a minion and gain some shield from a distance or push the wave with a W+E combo. His teamfighting is really, really strong and he's a great duellist. Gets kited easily though. Overall I think the new Morde would be way more fun than the old if we could actually use our W. If we get this one little change you not only would make the entire Mordekaiser playerbase happy but actually make this somewhat of a great rework; opening up new strategies and teamcomps while still letting the former mains play him the way they always did.

25 Comments

Euriko10 votes

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Wind Whistler1 votes

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Upvoted for the historical parallels :D

Give Morde his W or face a disaster as devastating as World War two!

I think I'm missing something here. What did Mordekaiser's W used to do?

Zenthon Prime1 votes

It used to like Nunu's Blood Boil in how it was casted (self or two targets), but it could also be casted on minions.

Now it's ally champion-cast only.

Big Lincoln1 votes

It did more damage over a longer period of time and granted 30 armor/MR to whoever he cast it on

tbh i think it's better on live, i'm so annoyed with them making his damage only "potentially" better and a hell of a lot less reliable

Hawkefire2 votes

This has been suggested, multiple times.

CertainlyT doesn't care.

Manwalrus2 votes

The ONE change Mordekaiser needs if he's going to be at least decent in solo lanes

I think you meant a W.

Wind Whistler2 votes

I'll feel bad for you if Mordekaiser turns out to be weaker next patch. You've even changed your name to Malicious Metal.

WeiseAzir2 votes

the morde rework is FINE

PQUNDCAKE1 votes

You're a moron to not see an issue with taking a formerly solo top/mid laner and neutering him so much that he requires a CC support to function.

WeiseAzir1 votes

morde support or feed

Arcarial2 votes

I am on OCE played 2 games as morde and the rework is fantastic. I too would like the W castable on minions and sacrificing the heal does seem the way to go to justify it. That being said I'm imagining he's gonna get nerfed next patch cos right now I dont even need to try. The heal is obscene. W damage is obscene. That being said Darius is even more toxic with the rework because of the heal he gets on his Q.

Oh and I was a great lover of morde before the rework, just fyi.

Burnt Iron King1 votes

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I am on OCE played 2 games as morde and the rework is fantastic. I too would like the W castable on minions and sacrificing the heal does seem the way to go to justify it. That being said I'm imagining he's gonna get nerfed next patch cos right now I dont even need to try. The heal is obscene. W damage is obscene. That being said Darius is even more toxic with the rework because of the heal he gets on his Q.

Oh and I was a great lover of morde before the rework, just fyi.

Yeah, that's what the Op seems to request in the first place: Giving Morde his W for solo lanes but deny him the heal. He'll have better waveclear, some more damage when fighting 1v2 during a gank and the means to survive harder matchups.

Blue Moon Wolf2 votes

If I could upvote this to 1000, I would. Just I looked over the changes and thought that they pretty much reworked him from the ground up stat wise, but this decrease to his already sad movement speed will only make it even harder to land even one Q. He can sustain for ages as long as his health can stay up, but any bot lane main can tell you sustain doesn't mean squat unless you can deal some damage back. This one change would be enough make him as riot put it "Serviceable solo lane".

Budupops2 votes

lol typical hypocrite you said you were quiting

Stars Shaper2 votes

The fact that it can overlap for double damage is by itself a wonderful mechanic for Duo and giving morde the single one is in line with the intent of: "Buffing his solo lane without making him OP in duo".

Make this happen, NOW!

Downfall1 votes

This won't happen because hes supposed to be completely duo lane only at this point.

The Quinndred1 votes

How about, to keep incentive for his duo lane, he doesn't get the healing effect unless he uses it with an ally. This way, he keeps his solo lane intact.

xl Kirito lx1 votes

Isn't everyone on the PBE maxing W first because of how strong it is in lane? Aside from the Q max top lane, of course.

Seekêr1 votes

I started playing mord and heimer because they are the only champions i really find fun anymore. Was really sad to see them do that to mord :C and even more upset to see them completely ignore the community(i didn't see a single player think mord's rework was a good idea)

Disclaimer: not hating on riot, i just dont find competitive games all that fun and i no longer have active friends to play casuals with. ^_^

Belosul1 votes

If they wanted to turn Morde to a supp class champ, some CC would be nice, this way his W is useless during starting/early mid phase for solo laning (top/mid)... there are no allied champions around to cast it on... except jungler gangs...

Noctius281 votes

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If they wanted to turn Morde to a supp class champ, some CC would be nice, this way his W is useless during starting/early mid phase for solo laning (top/mid)... there are no allied champions around to cast it on... except jungler gangs...

He's meant to replace the ADC, not support him

Belosul1 votes

Oh, I see :P :D, well in that case good thing they reduced his movement speed, landing that third Q once every 2nd match will be very nice :D

Feathermane1 votes

As predicted, Morde is good and now the 'mains' are asking for buffs. Be careful what you wish for, it's hard to play a banned champion.

Biff Manly1 votes

a tiny voice whispers in your ear Nautilus bring me to top lane with you~ Bot lane doesn't have to be 2 people~

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