how to deal with illaio

Nosnide··1 votes·2,264 views

Okay, i'm not even going to rage, but here is what i think is wrong with this champion:

  1. Super strong in team fights, like it doesn't matter if she is 0/20/0 in the mid-late game she will ravage a team with her kit.
  2. Also, her hit box for her tentacles is off a pretty amount and has always been which makes no sense because then why draw out the area it'll hit? Sion's hit box works the same but the hit box actually matches the drawn range of attack.

I used to rage at this champion and just ban her every match. However, someone had told me before that her win rate is like 46%, that she isn't broken etc.. I play against this champion with Wukong and she is so annoying to deal with but i can win lane phase if played right. The problem is she leaves little room for mistake because her damage is so insane, even when i'm ahead i have to fear her. Once lane phase ends i never know what to do with her in team fights, she destroys everyone.

TLDR; I think she is really strong despite the statistics on her. I always play Wukong into her and despite winning lane phase, she terrorizes in team fights. Her damage is so freakin' strong. How do i deal with this champion? Do i just have to give up on playing champs i want to play and only play champs that counter her? (that would seriously suck RIOT!)

8 Comments

Verxint3 votes

Illoai actually tells you how to beat her

When she uses q, she'll either say "MOVE!" or "LEARN!"

My suggestion is to learn how to move

Nosnide1 votes

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Illoai actually tells you how to beat her

When she uses q, she'll either say "MOVE!" or "LEARN!"

My suggestion is to learn how to move

So when she ults and there like 2-3 tentacles criss crossing i just need to avoid all of em and also avoid her hitting me on top of that? Also, on top of that in team fights everyone else is attacking, should i just learn to dodge like all the incoming damage? Damn makes sense, please teach me how you do this.

Verxint1 votes

When she ults just walk away lmao. She does nothing if she's not near tentacles and her ult is her only way to get tentacles quickly.

Zalieri2 votes

Illaio punishes melee champions that are not capable of bursting her early or have no in lane sustain. Counters in lane are champions like nasus, vayne top lane, jayce, and there are many more. Remember she has no way of actually getting to you if you have a champ that long ranges. Play her to understand her kit more.

Fondling Gems2 votes

A big part of teamfighting vs illaoi is treating her ult they way you would treat a massive anivia ult, gtfo

archerno11 votes

Thing about illaoi is that every champion can counter her as soon as he buys boots. U just need to clear tentacles. Her damage IS strong if she hits, but in most cases she doesnt hit. She is juggernaut, but compared to other Juggers(Darius,Garen, Morde...) she literally has nothing. Her E is useless, her Q has slow cast, easily dodged, her W is such short range that its meaningless, her passive is not reliable and is pointless. Her ulti does damage yes, but if there arent tentacles near, its useless. Illaoi is only champ that wasnt used in pro or high elo play on release cause of her useless kit,

She however has one thing going for her, similary to heimer, if she can bait couple of kill hungry individuals into her tentacle field, she can wreck them. Also her team pressence is pointless. I mean, imagine gank bot and Illaoi teleports to help. Whats she gonna do? Try to hit tentacle? Garen can silence, Darius can slow and apprehend. Also she has no true damage that Juggernauts usually have. So she is juggernaut thats easily countered by armor. She can easily be kited.

Give u one example. You see enemy half HP as lets say Garen (i compare with Garen and Darius because they are same type of champ as her). If you have flash up u can flash Q E ulti, u will do tons of damage. Darius, you can flash E W and ulti if needed. And Illaoi? Even if u have flash up, you wont do anything. You rely on your tentacle field. If teamfight breaks mid, u wont have tentacles to assist you, if u have to stop baron, again u dont have tentacles to fight for you.

She is just pointless champion, probably the worst one in league atm. She also doesnt have synergy with any champions. She cant peel, and mid and late game, her damage is only high if she builds full AD, which makes her glass cannon. If you gonna build her tank, there are better tanks, and its not like someone has to focus Illaoi as tank, she is no threat.

Ralanr1 votes

On the hitboxes: Yeah they do seem bigger than they appear, but as a Sion main I have learned a very important lesson with hitboxes.

  • Don't stand near the edge. I don't care if you think it looks cool to dodge it by the smallest margin, it is a really bad idea and you should give yourself a wide space between those hitboxes. She has a slow enough windup for you to do that.

Teamfights: It has a small ring and if you get caught in it it's best to just walk away. Once it is down it can't change position. Illaoi cannot bring her power with her, she can only use it in a designated area. If you can leave, leave. Don't try to fight her in it, she'll have enough sustain to barely survive (I've seen it. Still killed her, but she got to throw down three slams).

You can also CC her in the middle of the animation, which prevents the tentacles from attacking when they are summoned.

3TWarrior1 votes

it's not all that odd really but her weaknesses tend to be burst damage and range, so a lot of common picks can delay a fight with her ultil she doesn't have the hp left to initiate properly without burning flash

her damage is very high, but only if you fight where she wants you to. Most people have learned to actually always be moving and to run away from her if she is nearby so that her ultimate is wasted

if you stay in a fight with her, her ultimate can and will likely kill you if you don't manage to dodge to safety

if we look at it as a worst case scenario (a 1 v 1 with only 1 tentacle), her damage would come to at level 18

500(ultimate) + 500(ultimate tentacle attack) + 750(E tentacle attack) + 1200(W) + 750(Q) and then another W for 800 to 1200 and another Q for 500 (the soul should be gone by then)

this is an extended fight of about 8 to 10 seconds and most of the damage is avoidable (tentacle damage)...i'm not even sure if that one tentacle would still exist from her ultimate after a few seconds, but you can see that the basic idea is to not fight illaoi when it is to her advantage

this is also using OPTIMAL damage where she hits both her opponent and the spirit(and my math isn't really even right because she doesn't melee the spirit)

in all though, using OPTIMAL numbers, that comes to 5000 to 5400 in damage over an extended 1 v 1 fight using just her base AD

although, in a team fight, she is likely to hook 2 to 5 tentacles...put simply, if she manages to hit your entire team (which shouldn't be grouping in the first place), that damage essentially multiplies by the effective number the longer she can keep you in her zone

so, if you stay in a fight, in her zone and let every tentacle hit you, that is how much damage she could do in about 10 seconds

if she is fighting someone like jax, however, his total will probably equal or beat her own due to his stun and inherent steroids

illaoi is useful in team fights, but it is best to try and bait her ultimate, so that you can move the fight and then finish her off

illaoi's best quote is, "I'm not into sermons...broken bones teach better lessons"

another issue with things is latency(as it is an issue with everything), but essentially, you have to know what she is going to do, fake it out while fighting and proceed to pound her face in

I actually like illaoi a lot as a champion, but she suffers from the issue champions such as yasuo, zed, fizz, etc have...except...not as toxic XD where there's a specific thing you have to do to fight them or it's impossible...yet hers is much more clearly....there to exploit

personally, i'm wanting to create a bruiser illaoi build so she isnt' unkillable and has much more decent damage, but as things are, tank is most efficient, AD is most fun

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