Why does Irelia's Bladesurge go on cooldown?

Raynor1111·6/16/2015, 5:23:38 PM·47 votes·3,295 views

I'm an Irelia main top, and I find it infinitely frustrating when I Bladesurge(Q) to a minion that dies before I get to it, and my ability goes on cooldown. The Wikia entry says that if the minion dies within a short time (less than a second) of using the ability, the mana will be refunded and the cooldown will be refreshed. Why is this not actually happening?

31 Comments

KING OF MASKS6/16/2015, 10:11:11 PM22 votes

You know what I find infinitely frustrating? Laning against an Irelia.

"You'll get no sympathy from me!"

Paress6/16/2015, 8:56:56 PM8 votes

Is this trying to buff Irelia !

it's a conspiracy !

MVDuneCats6/16/2015, 7:17:03 PM7 votes

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The Wikia entry says that if the minion dies within a short time (less than a second) of using the ability, the mana will be refunded and the cooldown will be refreshed. Why is this not actually happening?

Is Wikia just out-of-date/inaccurate? The description for the ability on League's web site says this activates if Bladesurge kills the target, which is consistent with what I've experienced in game.

The Grunzarvian6/17/2015, 3:43:14 PM4 votes

As someone who does GP, I understand your frustration at using q to last hit minions... that die before the skill lands, but the CD and mana cost still applies.

Joe Dredd6/16/2015, 9:45:31 PM4 votes

because you can't even cs with a skill made to help csing. gg bad

CreationFlaw6/16/2015, 5:48:26 PM3 votes

Eh, I've had times where it resets even if I don't kill a minion. It's not the cleanest ability. So it's just spaghetti code, I suppose.

Crett6/16/2015, 9:32:54 PM3 votes

I hate Irelia so I hope she has every bug possible 8)

I Main Swain6/16/2015, 10:36:26 PM2 votes

an irelia I faced a while ago told me that all of her abilities proc trinity force? is that true?

if so, why is a champ with massive passive tenacity, true damage, a large heal, and pretty good tankiness allowed to have everything proc trinity force? I mean, you see these irelia's build nothing but triforce and botrk for offensive yet they still nuke the crap out of your carries, and even bruisers.

CoolKnightST6/17/2015, 12:17:18 PM2 votes

Well if they nerf her, it would be a nice buff to compensate.

VeryGreen6/18/2015, 5:04:16 AM1 votes

Didn't they give that to some champion where if there ability didnt hit them soon enough then it wouldnt go on CD?

Colgate Gator6/16/2015, 5:49:57 PM1 votes

Because it's fukken buggeeeeh and I hate it.

That bug is super frustrating and you have to play it cool, because if the enemy realizes you messed up your Q's CD, they will go town on you.

Zombiemaster6/16/2015, 10:16:33 PM1 votes

I think this means if the target dies within a short time of your Q damaging it, that's when you get the CD and mana refresh.

The wiki says "within a very short time of performing Bladesurge." If the minion dies while you are still dashing to it, you haven't actually finished "performing" Bladesurge, so you won't get the refresh. This is the way I look at it anyway. Besides, I've noticed that it tends to be quite a buggy skill.

ElJanitorFrank6/16/2015, 11:48:31 PM1 votes

Because it's talking about AFTER you have damaged it with bladesurge. Not while in-flight towards the minion.

SoMNia6/17/2015, 12:23:15 AM1 votes

Unfortunately, the cooldown only resets if the target dies AFTER it's hit by Q. If it dies before you reach it, that effect is never triggered. I don't like it, either.

Aeolian Melodies6/17/2015, 2:09:00 AM1 votes

I assume the Wikia means that if the minion dies within that short window, starting AFTER you have damaged it with Bladesurge. Therefore if you don't reach the creep before it dies, it won't refresh.

Archeanthus6/17/2015, 5:38:23 AM1 votes

AMEN BROTHA

Orangesilk6/17/2015, 1:49:52 PM1 votes

Eh, it's a low cd low cost Irelia dash. It's frustrating when as Diana, you land a Q, go for the ham, and something happens while you're mid-air that doesn't let you hit your target. (Azirs wall, Jannas wind, Zhonyas, Trollpole, etc), now you have landed 0 R's on your enemy, and the thing is on cooldown for forever because the cd reset doesn't happen when you target a moonstung enemy, but when you actually hit it. I'm 100% sure it's the same thing with Irelia, if the guy died while you're midair, no reset for you.

Kairya6/17/2015, 6:04:04 PM1 votes

A dangerous discussion. You could also fix this problem, by removing reset and refund...