Right now a 
With even 1 kill advantage can turn that into 10+ kills in matter of minutes due to the nature of their bull shit damage and kits. like why did you give rengar back his most cancerous Q damage but then leave his free Qss/heal and other bull shit parts of his rework. its really not fun being Qed for 400 damage by a fucking rengar with a hunter machete.
taleofsonata5 votesNobody is fun to play against when they are ahead stop complaining and learn those match up and counterpick.
DOUBLE TAPPED E3 votesI'm guess you are an ADC main who absolutely refuses to buy 
or 
because it doesn't increase your damage...
Basic tip: Dead champions do 0 damage. (Unless you're 
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Its All Skillzz1 votesI'm guess you are an ADC main who absolutely refuses to buy
Basic tip: Dead champions do 0 damage. (Unless you're
built ninja tab last game an the rengar still 1 shot me lol keep thinking they are balanced with that bull shit fucking duskblade item that shouldnt been added to the game.
Talinis3 votes[{quoted}](name=Its All Skillzz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HllYMIEx,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-03-21T02:21:14.906+0000)
Right now a
Oh yes, I totally agree, they should be be allowed to do something other than be forced to snowball and kill champions. You know, like be able to team fight better, be able to siege better (better wave clear, better range than most of the rosters lack thereof). They should get better CC so they can peel for team better or shielding for better tanking. And assassins should be made better for when they don't snowball and fall behind so that they aren't useless.
How about, each class and champions have clear weaknesses and strengths. Assassins have more exploitable weaknesses than most of the other classes. They are a huge risk/reward. If you fall behind as most of the assassin roster,the game is literally a 4 v 5 with how useless you can become. If you decide to help your team fight, be amazed at how much damage you do(which will only half health even the squishies) and then die like the free bag of gold to the enemy team you are. So it makes sense if your team screws up or the assassin plays well that he gets to enjoy his power.
A hell of a lot of the rest of the champions are pretty unstoppable when ahead (some champions can easily 1 v 4 - 1 v 5). Just because you don't like something or suck at playing against something doesn't mean it should be changed. There are many champions that I think need HEFTY nerfs into 20% win rate for how toxic they are (and most of them are not assassins) but virtually every champion has frustrating and toxic, overpowered mechanics. It is what it is. Play better or pick champions that do well vs them if you can't deal.
Its All Skillzz1 votesOh yes, I totally agree, they should be be allowed to do something other than be forced to snowball and kill champions. You know, like be able to team fight better, be able to siege better (better wave clear, better range than most of the rosters lack thereof). They should get better CC so they can peel for team better or shielding for better tanking. And assassins should be made better for when they don't snowball and fall behind so that they aren't useless.
How about, each class and champions have clear weaknesses and strengths. Assassins have more exploitable weaknesses than most of the other classes. They are a huge risk/reward. If you fall behind as most of the assassin roster,the game is literally a 4 v 5 with how useless you can become. If you decide to help your team fight, be amazed at how much damage you do(which will only half health even the squishies) and then die like the free bag of gold to the enemy team you are. So it makes sense if your team screws up or the assassin plays well that he gets to enjoy his power.
A hell of a lot of the rest of the champions are pretty unstoppable when ahead (some champions can easily 1 v 4 - 1 v 5). Just because you don't like something or suck at playing against something doesn't mean it should be changed. There are many champions that I think need HEFTY nerfs into 20% win rate for how toxic they are (and most of them are not assassins) but virtually every champion has frustrating and toxic, overpowered mechanics. It is what it is. Play better or pick champions that do well vs them if you can't deal.
be funny if what you said is true, except ive been assassinated by a 3-11 rengar. an this as pre rework when he got his Q back an he was considered shit. infact he killed me so fast i didnt even have time to E as ezreal and i have video proof of it. https://youtu.be/jOFENQS-35c https://youtu.be/5wzpRhn8TLs Damn assassins much hard have to be so far ahead to kill people. The diana doesnt even have a completed item and has been feeding out her ass. but ill take her over rengar/kha zix or pretty much any other stealth assassin anyday. Also this is pre runes rework when damage was a bit lower but we still had op shit like thunderlords.
Talinis2 votes[{quoted}](name=Its All Skillzz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HllYMIEx,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-03-21T04:21:15.201+0000)
be funny if what you said is true, except ive been assassinated by a 3-11 rengar. an this as pre rework when he got his Q back an he was considered shit. infact he killed me so fast i didnt even have time to E as ezreal and i have video proof of it. https://youtu.be/jOFENQS-35c https://youtu.be/5wzpRhn8TLs Damn assassins much hard have to be so far ahead to kill people. The diana doesnt even have a completed item and has been feeding out her ass. but ill take her over rengar/kha zix or pretty much any other stealth assassin anyday. Also this is pre runes rework when damage was a bit lower but we still had op shit like thunderlords.
Assassins are literally useless at doing most anything else besides killing people. There is a reason why almost none of them are picked LCS/pro play unless they are blatantly overpowered. And there is a reason they do so well at low level (because people play poor making it ez for assassins to do their one job). And diana is more of a bruiser than an assassin.
On a side note, have you seen how much ranged burst adcs put out? Ya, that is why assassins damage needs to be so fast and strong. No range and squishy against ranged burst mages and ADCS.
VoraciousX1 votesAssassins are literally useless at doing most anything else besides killing people. There is a reason why almost none of them are picked LCS/pro play unless they are blatantly overpowered. And there is a reason they do so well at low level (because people play poor making it ez for assassins to do their one job). And diana is more of a bruiser than an assassin.
Honestly lethality is really friggin strong and needs a bigger nerf imo. Either that or Electrocute, and I play assassins(Although I play AP assassins more than AD ones). I don't think the damage of duskblade is a problem really(it deals more damage than gunblade late but less damage early), but lethality in general amps their damage by quite a bit. I've killed a Zed in lane, he comes back with a serrated dirk and then suddenly almost one shots me with one rotation. It's kinda disgusting. I feel like it's electrocute moreso than lethality but lethality amps electrocute damage as well because it's adaptive.
As for Diana being a bruiser, she's honestly played MUCH MORE like an assassin nowadays than a bruiser.
I also feel like Rengar didn't need to be reverted. He wasn't bad, and it felt to me like people just wanted their instaburst with no counterplay aside from "don't be in the vicinity" back. You can't flash away from enhanced autos but you could his new Q.
jocomotion1 votesDude just play assassins if you think they’re that broken. They’re made to snowball but if you don’t and the support has half a brain they’re worthless. Minus maybe 
for his utility.
Its All Skillzz1 votesDude just play assassins if you think they’re that broken. They’re made to snowball but if you don’t and the support has half a brain they’re worthless. Minus maybe
problem is in solo Q all support does is wander around an feed the assassin.
jocomotion1 votesThen, again, play them... it’s not that hard. Heck, abuse them in lower elo.
