The Real Problem With Udyr

Chaos Milk Tea·11/21/2017, 4:01:59 PM·1 votes·454 views

Every one of Udy'rs abilities are instant, and point blank. These abilities may ask much of the udyr player, but ask hardly anything of the opponent other than the normal "respect range, respect cooldowns, kite." Udyr doesn't need a small rearranging of his stats. If you move his power around, he will just become broken or worthless the instant items do or don't support him since he is much more affected by his stats than other champions. (Xin Zhao has had this problem many times in the past too). Udyr needs an actual update to a few of his abilities that introduce SOME kind of interaction. A delayed effect, a skill shot, anything an opponent can look at and go "this makes me think more about how I fight Udyr." This would introduce a wider range of success and failure scenarios, allowing you to increase his potency in the success scenarios, as well as reducing the impact of swings in item efficiency.

4 Comments

Boulderox11/21/2017, 4:24:48 PM1 votes

They tried to create interaction with udyr via the 3 hit stuff so that his turtle isn't just free lifesteal on hit form, and tiger can be more assassin based gameplay. I do think that we must also recall that he is a melee champ, and MS boosts aren't dashes, so most scenarios flash is needed to increase ganking power, he can be kited and cc'd pretty hard still. He is powerful atm but is very underplayed, people overlooked his ability cost buff a few patches back and the buff to some items like item 3153 can make him better in some situations. Does that make him sleeper, ehhhh, yes or no, I believe if he ever has a huge jump in winrate and playrate, then we need to take a look hard at him.

Chumpzi11a11/21/2017, 5:07:22 PM1 votes

I think tiger stance is ok. It's iconic, does a thing. Turtle stance kinda sucks. How about if it gave him a troll-pole kinda dodge? Or maybe it's a snapping turtle to make him stickier? Maybe make Phoenix into valkyrie and make bear an actual ult? Like old ww ult, just melee range. He really just seems super boring, like singed but even less cool.

gabetheguy11/21/2017, 6:11:36 PM1 votes

sad thing is that he'll never get a much-needed VGU because he has an ultimate skin.

xxxDogmanxxx11/22/2017, 6:15:11 PM1 votes

I wish there were actual differences in his abilities beyond stats. His abilities are all just different stat sets. Q is single-target damage, W is shield and lifesteal, E is movement speed and stun, R is AoE damage.

They should make it so that his stances actually make Udyr do different stuff. One stance makes all his auto-attacks become linear skill shots, one stance makes it so that his auto-attacks do no damage, but are instead direction-targeted gap-closers, one stance makes all his auto-attacks knock targets back, etc.