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Riot. Fix. Your. Damn. Matchmaking. 2v2, 5v5, fix it all.

Inari Fox Orrion··10 votes·947 views

So since I've made a complaint about the abhorrent 5v5 matchmaking, let me make a complaint about the shitty duo queue/solo queue matchmaking too!

Numerous times have I seen completely new to ranked in my game - and to make up for it, someone a league/several divisions above my own rank, too. As bullshit as this is up against a team that doesn't have two people feeding their @$$ off/with a team that does have two people feeding their ass off, it'd be even more bullshit if that one single person of the higher rank carried because that means those people undeserving of LP/rank get LP/rank for basically free.

What doesn't help is that this issue is even more visible in DuoQ, where you have couples matched up against a team with another couple in it - except for some reason Riot thinks that duos magically have more skill than a solo, when that really isn't the case at all - they communicate more and trust eachother. It's almost like that's why supports always duo with ADCs they know when climbing... ...ever think that's part of why your playerbase thinks you shit on all the support mains, Riot? It's because you kinda' do, especially with a weird system like this.

http://imgur.com/a/Aiyzm P.S: Low ward count thanks to no-one ever trying to gank me.

18 Comments

Sydney262 votes

why u build titanic hydra on nasus ... if u buy it u need others items with Hp to increase the dmg of titanic ... u cant lasthit your minions with the q if they tiamat effect kills teh minions :D u cant stack properly your q

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

Inari Fox Orrion1 votes

Actually, the cleave isn't applied to the primary target - only the item 3748 bonus damage based on health, which it DOES stack my Q with.

Sydney262 votes

u didnt understand what i wrote ... with the hydra effect u clear the minions behind the minion u hit with q .. u cant kill all 6 minions in one wave with your q because atleast 3 will die because of the hydra effect giving u no stacks

and bond of stones makes no real sense on nasus .. he is a solo laner and mostly a splitpusher .. so noone can use the heal effect

Inari Fox Orrion1 votes

He can be played more ways than one. Tanky, AP, AD, Splitpusher. I prefer playing him as a hybrid Teamfighter/Splitpusher, W'ing the ADC (and it applies Bond of Stone every tick of the slow!) and, as for Titanic, that's fine because by then I usually don't need the extra stacks.

Sydney262 votes

this makes no sense .. u are a teamfighter or a splitpusher .. u cant be both at the same time :D i am rather a good teamfighter or a good splitpusher ... itemizing for both is not good ... u can do all but u do i mediocre

i know how bond of stone works but in bronze u will be more effetive only carrying your lane and splitpush because in bronze no one knows how to counter splitpush :D so take a keystone which helps u to win your lane

Inari Fox Orrion1 votes

You underestimate how haphazard the matchmaking is for Bronze. Remember that Bronze is basically Silver to Challenger in a mixing pot because it acts as the basis for where you begin, no matter what rank you were in the previous season - and since you will eventually have such high MMR that you can't meet expectation for the game, you'll get placed in it even if you were Challenger last season.

And either way... it's more useful than you think. Try it before doubting. It heals YOU too.

Sydney262 votes

thats not true :D .. warlords was far superior when u get 50% lifesteal with your stacked q which does lategame more than 1000 dmg :D

and bronze is not silver to challenger ... silver is silver and challenger is challenger ... the season started in december .. now we have march .. i dont think that there is alot of people in bronze which cant get out of bronze for so long when they are actually challenger :D

Sydney262 votes

and splitpushing always works in bronze .. u can take they nexus towers ... no one will help the toplaner :D

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

yeah any bs work in bronze [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Inari Fox Orrion1 votes

I like you, but that doesn't mean I agree. ^.^

Also, yeah 500 lifesteal IS a bit nice, so that's true - but it also means I give up the 15% tenacity, which is something Nasus really needs since his major weakness is CC.

Sydney261 votes

merc boots are more than enough for tenacity ... investing more points in teh offensive tree helps splitpushing ... i teamfights u can only w someone .. maokai or nautilus or poppy can defend the adc better than a nasus

DeadTrannies1 votes

Fuck the ward count did you see those cs numbers all 10 go afk for 15 mins?

Max Griswald1 votes

It was like a 10 minute game due to all of the feeding.

Inari Fox Orrion1 votes

23min before they surrendered. When I 1v3'ed and killed two, followed by having the last one escape, they knew it was over and forfeited.

Avienal1 votes

{quoted}

So since I've made a complaint about the abhorrent 5v5 matchmaking, let me make a complaint about the shitty duo queue/solo queue matchmaking too!

Numerous times have I seen completely new to ranked in my game - and to make up for it, someone a league/several divisions above my own rank, too. As bullshit as this is up against a team that doesn't have two people feeding their @$$ off/does have two people feeding their ass off, it'd be even more bullshit if that one single person of the higher rank carried because that means those people you just steamrolled will get steamrolled even harder, or vice-versa to someone else.

What doesn't help is that this issue is even more visible in DuoQ, where you have couples matched up against a team with another couple in it - except for some reason Riot thinks that duos magically have more skill than a solo, when that really isn't the case at all - they communicate more and trust eachother. It's almost like that's why supports always duo with ADCs they know when climbing... ...ever think that's part of why your playerbase thinks you shit on all the support mains, Riot? It's because you kinda' do, especially with a weird system like this.

http://imgur.com/a/Aiyzm P.S: Low ward count thanks to no-one ever trying to gank me.

No wonder i end up always feeling salty in all the matches i ever played, if they can't properly keep the average of all players 'tightened down', then its clear people are going to continue to suffer against pub stomp type champs that are likely tune perfectly with multiple rune pages to help push the early game snowball by being ready for a AD mid-lane duel build, AP mid-lane duel build, etc. Runes may only give 'small stats' but anything in a snowball will just add to the annoyance of a snowball.

Granted we have 'grouping and role position selections', but if its because they can't get a properly set of average players within 3~5 minutes it just defaults to pulling un'even groups instead is kind of a problem really. Especially if they don't have some win'rate calculator on 'draft/blind pick' to push the match making for players of equal skill level, because i'm sure i should end up against low level players based on all the defeats i get, unless Co-OP AI mode just magically 'wipes' such things away or a single match does that effect.

So many things League of Legends could of had fine tuned long ago, yet so much of its still in the pile of 'ignored useful fix ups to greatly improve the game and make alot more players in the 'newer playerbase' feel safe enough to play long time and get to the level where they can play in the pro-tier on a fair enough level.

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

What's the complain ?? U are just a bronze III (playing with a duo btw), do u really think u are above a other player ??? just by looking this match seems fair.

"high" bronze, silver 5 its same level. And unranked is... random (u'll never know). But an unranked can be better than bronze (even without smurfing). Matchmaking isnt what prevent u to climb.

And come on... Tita on Nasus... are u serious ?

btw board, look lucian, this is why i said

Low elo are so funny... how many patch late have u ??

Inari Fox Orrion1 votes

Nice try, but the moment you bring rank into the argument you completely negate any point you (may) have had. And even then, I never said I'm better/worse than them (though I know I'm S5 from multiple peoples' own opinions) and only ever said that the matchmaking is uneven and skewed.

Also, read the above comment involving Titanic on Nasus - it's better than you think.

SilentBomber1 votes

I have played 800+ games to reach Silver 1 and after numerous loss streaks(13 losses and more).Started playing vs last season Plat and i enjoyed 4-5 games even when i lost.

When i had more wins than losses,suddenly i started getting Intentional feeders and griefing players in 5 games in a row.Got demoted Silver 2 but no worries.I said "shit happens i will try again".Then again, 2 four games loss streak again,because of first time Katarina,typical Yasuo players flaming during the whole game,afk Zyra in jungle giving free FB and later on feeding intentionally 1 vs 4 5-6 times while saying "i'm just bad" when last season she was Gold or,when i got unranked in my team only making basically 4 vs 5 becaise that guy had no idea how to play the game.

It is not funny.Another guy last season gold went first time Cassio and fed Kassadin.He ended the game with 0/8/0 saying "i'm just bad".So intentionally picking a champion you have 0 experience with and feeding the enemy for free is "being bad"?ok.

I get the feeling we will see more and more posts about the matter.Time will show who's at fault ;)

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