@Riot, was the cld nerf really necessary on jhin?

AwesomeChad··4 votes·476 views

You guys nerfed the ult base dmg by alot which prevents using it to 100-0 someone and buffed the dmg increase per % missing hp to incentivize using his ult more for killing low hp targets. So, shouldn't he keep his 10% cdr per unused shot to perform that role better??

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Astôlfo2 votes

Jhin's damage nerfs were warranted, but I don't think the CDR removal was. It helped distinguish the good and bad Jhins depending on when they used and how they used because by not using all bullets, they could account for the lower CD to use it later, so on and so forth.

Hyperiön1 votes

No, Jhin is super broken, and needs way toned down. Theres no one who should be able to one shot someone with 1 auto attack.

CaptnJakSparrow3 votes

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No, Jhin is super broken, and needs way toned down. Theres no one who should be able to one shot someone with 1 auto attack.

But it's okay for Zilean to get a quadra kill pressing Q W Q?

Hyperiön1 votes

This topic isn't about Zilean is it?

CaptnJakSparrow3 votes

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This topic isn't about Zilean is it?

You can't bitch about X, when Y that's actually more potent exists.

So, if you're going to come into a post and go "wah he does this and I die op rito nerf QQ." Give me an actual logical reason as to why. And since 99% of you reach for the "well he does tons of damages with one bullet." Yeah, he does tons of damage with one bullet. And then he sits there like a fucking idiot. Any adc can basically jump from a bush and all in him and he'll die. And if you do the match, every adc in the game will out sustain damage him over a 10 second duration.

He is not a sustained damage adc. He is an assassin adc, just like

Corki is actually a mage adc that does sustained damage with abilities instead of auto attacking, but also does a surprising amount of burst with triforce, and then he chases them down with ult.

Ezreal is a kiting adc.

Caitlyn is a sieging/control adc. She does ass loads of damage via head shot trapping while slowly choking control points. She literally does Jhin levels of damage to multiple people via headshot burst exploitations.

Draven and Vayne have 1v1 me kits in that they do ass loads of 1v1 all in damage. Either one of those adcs can run up to you with 2.0 attack speed and destroy you with 1-2 auto attacks and there's absolutely nothing you can do.

Varus is a long range poking adc that tears squishies under turret to pieces while sieging. He can practically one shot someone with a Q.

Twitch is a skirmishing pentakill monster that can kill an entire team with 3 auto attacks.

But yeah, I guess Jhin can chunk you with one auto and stand there like a fucking idiot as Twitch turns him into swiss cheese before Jhin can fire his next shot. x3

AwesomeChad1 votes

you didnt read path notes...

Hyperiön1 votes

No, I did, he didn't get nearly enough nerfs that he should get.

CaptnJakSparrow1 votes

Honestly I find the CDR nerf completely unwarranted . . .

I'm also kind of tired of people bitching about Jhin's ult, when you realize Lucian can 100-0 with his ult at level 6, only faster.

Regardless, I feel little difference with his ult damage. I feel the W damage though.

I'll be honest and say that if they nerf him too much more he'll be fucked due to all the buffs to the underdogs + assassin rework incoming. People think that doesn't imply a nerf. But in reality it does. Assassins = you either have an adc with a dash, or you lose. Jhin's basically a walking 300 gold to any good Zed/Talon/Rengar player.

Calabok1 votes

Its a good thing

Elikain1 votes

No. The point of Jhin's overall flat damage on ult being nerfed was that he can't 100-0 people because that wasn't fair. His range is super long and outside of any retaliation range if you're not Ashe or Sivir to dodge faster. CD nerf was also needed so that he can't rinse/repeat if he isn't successful. Now he either uses it to slow people so that his team catches up to them or he uses it to pick off low HP targets.

Ace Access 1 votes

the cdr and flat damage nerf on his ult was so unnecessary

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