What champions do you think need a rework, but nobody talks about?

Zenthon Prime··2 votes·572 views

I'm making this thread because there is one champion in particular that's really been bugging me: Ziggs.

For nearly two years now, there has not been a single situation where Ziggs has been the correct choice. In any game. Ever. He is completely outclassed by Lux, Xerath, Vel'Koz and even Viktor in practically every area. The only area he shines is semi-global waveclear, but that's partially negated by the now-viable Banner of Command. His teamfighting is garbage compared to Lux, Vel and Viktor, his single-wave waveclear is bad compared to Vel, Xerath and especially Viktor, his poke is trash compared to Lux and Xerath, and the list goes on. List any reason to pick Ziggs and there is a champion you should be picking instead. I just can't see Ziggs being viable without a rework or other sweeping changes, but Riot isn't even looking at him seriously in the upcoming rework and from the comments I was looking at, very few players singled him out either. And it's a shame, because Ziggs has a cool thematic and two of the coolest skins in the game (Pool Party and Archmage).

What are your thoughts? Any other champions that are being ignored by everyone but need help or big changes?

5 Comments

xl Kirito lx2 votes

Wasn't Ziggs popular mid- season 4, around the time Orianna was? Athene's was god teir mana regen, and he could just solo stall games for hours on ends.

Zenthon Prime1 votes

Yep, almost two years ago. Ever since then he hasn't been viable and Xerath (my main, although I used to play Ziggs on the side for certain matchups) has been better than him in every matchup ever since.

BRBGTGBOWFLEX2 votes

Untrue, he had a decent phase of popularity during season 4 prior to their nerf on his waveclear. He was seen as really dominant since he could do then what GP does now (clear 2 lanes at the same time).

Zenthon Prime1 votes

I addressed this; that time was nearly two years ago. He has been unviable ever since the nerfs, and with the popularity of champions such as Viktor/GP/Lux and the rise of assassins I do not see buffs changing this.

Big Lincoln1 votes

Veigar

feel like now that a lot more champions (ADCs in particular) have access to burst damage and are usually more mobile, he feels less and less worth picking. aside from his stun which is really good, albeit a bit boring, he feels like he's just overkill personified.

He should still be League's premier nuker but I'd like to see him supporting more interesting gameplay patterns.

Syndra

for someone who's theme is about "unlimited power" she sure does fall off hard late game. I know Riot's working on her supposedly but i felt like it was worth mentioning. most of what I'd want to change is how she scales, probably through her passive.

Zilean

i hate this fucker

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