Ardent Censer is pretty over tuned

KoKoboto··5 votes·1,818 views

I remember playing Rakan, missing a ton of Gleaming Feathers but still ending the game with high levels of healing. I check Ardent Censer and lo and behold I average around 3k healing from that item ALONE with just point click shields.

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NinjaGuy692 votes

I check Ardent Censer and lo and behold I average around 3k healing from that item ALONE with just point click shields.

Guess what, cutie pie?** A lot** of the support items are overpowered at the moment. Ardent Censer, Redemption and the sightstone upgrades are all way too powerful. Plus, the fact that Locket and Crucible synergize so well with those items indirectly makes those items too powerful as well. Luckily, I believe Meddler said they were planning on looking at the support items in the near future. Hopefully they tone them down in a meaningful way and don't make the same mistake again.

KoKoboto2 votes

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Guess what, cutie pie?

Oh stop it youu! <3

I think Ardent Censer is the easiest one to pull off though, just shield and than you start raking in a lot of healing. The other items need a bit more thought put into them.

NinjaGuy691 votes

I think Ardent Censer is the easiest one to pull off though, just shield and than you start raking in a lot of healing. The other items need a bit more thought put into them.

Censer is undoubtedly the easiest one to use. But again, the overarching problem is that when you stack these support items together, they become really problematic.

KoKoboto1 votes

Mmm yes when you stack the items together than its worse. I think Ardent Censer is the most busted though. I recall Dopa saying the item is equivalent to bloodthirster healing and it also gives attack speed and requires no thought at all.

Rexxiee2 votes

Redemption censer and locket all need nerfs, we know that.

dont know why riot likes balancing the support role that way though, just buffing and more buffs for support items over and over until they are broken.

PokladnicaZla1 votes

Well, 3k may seem much,but it depends how long you had it,how much did u use your shields/heals to proc it and how long the game lasted and what ADCs you had ( Vayne,Twitch,Kalista or any adc that build a lot of AS,goes really well with this item).

KoKoboto1 votes

It goes really well with any champion that wants to auto attack really, it also gives attack speed. The healing can only be mitigated by grevious wounds.

I also said on average, so unless the game ends really early I have always got around that much healing or more if the game goes late.

SwiftKitten881 votes

item 3504 is fine... its only problematic when combined withitem 3107 item 3190

i feel they could make them all say "your healing and shielding SKILLS" and not just "healing"

and that would fix that toxic interaction between them all

KoKoboto1 votes

I don't think Ardent Censer is fine. It gives a decent amount of AP to start with which is great for most shielding supports. Next it gives movement speed, also another great thing for AP supports and CDR. It also Than it gives the increased healing and shielding so yeah it's already above average compared to other forbidden idol items if you ask me when it just comes to base stats.

Than you also have the easiest applicable passive compared to the other support items that buffs A/S and gives free healing. It also gives on-hit damage to whoever you shield and lasts long enough that you can usually have it up 100% of the time. While redemption and locket are used situational (only in teamfights and you want to make sure good position and blocking damage), Ardent Censer is always good.

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