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Even with the Ninja tabi nerf the tenacity offered by Merc treads will still only 50% useful

Irelia Bot··12 votes·728 views

Make it effect knockups already.

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AwesomeGuyDj4 votes

Thats the entire point of knockups though... The fact that CC reduction doesnt affect them. At the cost of being shorter than most other cc.

hhaavviikk9 votes

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Thats the entire point of knockups though... The fact that CC reduction doesnt affect them. At the cost of being shorter than most other cc.

I understand but when they keep releasing knock-ups then duration doesn't matter because they can chain them

PhDs Nuts2 votes

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I understand but when they keep releasing knock-ups then duration doesn't matter because they can chain them

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I understand but when they keep releasing knock-ups then duration doesn't matter because they can chain them

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I understand but when they keep releasing knock-ups then duration doesn't matter because they can chain them

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I understand but when they keep releasing knock-ups then duration doesn't matter because they can chain them

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I understand but when they keep releasing knock-ups then duration doesn't matter because they can chain them

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Yaśuo Main1 votes

I honestly don't think it's the duration of the knockups, it's the cast time. Sion 50% charge Q, Poppy ult, Yasuo tornado, Rakan knockup. Name me a knockup that is used as fast as a stun.

Darkdemon6531 votes

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I honestly don't think it's the duration of the knockups, it's the cast time. Sion 50% charge Q, Poppy ult, Yasuo tornado, Rakan knockup. Name me a knockup that is used as fast as a stun.

Blitz E

Yaśuo Main1 votes

He has to walk up to you to do that so it does have a time before he actually knocks you up.

Melledoneus1 votes

Malphite ult.

Yaśuo Main2 votes

Malphite is outdated and boring, he's in the sight of a rework. And he still has a time before he actually hits it.

SithesisLord1 votes

Fun is subjective.

Even when talking about what Riot thinks is fun.

Yaśuo Main1 votes

To be honest, You can't even name a champ as boring or more boring than Malphite. Atleast boring as boring to play against.

Melledoneus1 votes

Boring or not, it's pretty fast. Nothing short of instant mobility or untargetability can outplay it.

Irelia Bot1 votes

Alistar

Yaśuo Main1 votes

Has to walk up to you for it to hit. Takes more time than a regular stun.

Irelia Bot1 votes

They made the headbutt pulverize combo far easier to pull off.

He does not have to walk up to you.

Yaśuo Main1 votes

Even then, it's just how much time he takes to headbutt you.

Who is Taliyah1 votes

Would you rather be knocked up for 1.25 seconds or be stunned for 2 seconds tho

AwesomeGuyDj1 votes

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I understand but when they keep releasing knock-ups then duration doesn't matter because they can chain them

Then get cleanse or Qss to break the stun and use an ability or flash to cancel the airborne effect. It counts as a stun and airborne. Stun to block movement and then the actual airborne effect.

Irelia Bot1 votes

So why even buy anything with tenacity when it doesn't do anything a lot of the time?

AwesomeGuyDj1 votes

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So why even buy anything with tenacity when it doesn't do anything a lot of the time?

its called being SITUATIONAL You dont buy qss if they have no cc. You dont buy mr if they dont do magic damage. YOU BUY BASED ON WHAT THEY HAVE.

Ahristocats2 votes

knock ups wouldn't be different than stuns then

Irelia Bot2 votes

If knockups were not used so often in new kits it wouldn't be a problem.

AwesomeGuyDj1 votes

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If knockups were not used so often in new kits it wouldn't be a problem.

out of the last 12 champions released, 2 have knockups, so i dont know what your talking about.

xWaters1 votes

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knock ups wouldn't be different than stuns then

Do mercs affected displacements?

Irelia Bot1 votes

They do not effect knockups, knockbacks, suppression (malz ult) and I believe taunts as well as fiddle's Q are also not effected but I am not 100% on taunts.

xWaters2 votes

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They do not effect knockups, knockbacks, suppression (malz ult) and I believe taunts as well as fiddle's Q are also not effected but I am not 100% on taunts.

Shitty boots lmao. Riot doesnt care so it wont be fixed. Guess ill keep buying tabis

FeelsCampedMan1 votes

Yasuo would like a word with you

Yaśuo Main1 votes

Slow Tornado projectile speed is slow, still takes time to hit lol.

Irelia Bot1 votes

Fairly sure I have seem a huge amount of Yasuo players do a combo the is basically impossible to dodge where it is Sweeping Blade to the target followed directly by Steel Tempest

Yaśuo Main1 votes

I also see a lot of people like you who don't realize that after that, he has literally no way of getting to you if you flash after him ulting with that combo.

Irelia Bot1 votes

Usually it is followed up by an ult where the tower is not hitting him because it positioned him out of tower range.

Yaśuo Main1 votes

You forgot to mention that it does that because he is squishy as hell and the tower shots ignore his shield. Yasuo also has to manually position the ult.

Silverjust1 votes

they should replace a lot of knockups with a shorter knockup combined with a stun, so it still interupts dashes but can be reduced

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