Why are League players so mad?

EkkoFroffles··8 votes·1,374 views

Soloing dragon with Vi got me wondering how early Warwick could solo. There's a video of a guy doing it level 1, so I thought I'd load up a co-op and try it out just for fun, not really expecting it to work. Another guy locked in jungle, though, and when I told him my plan to just try for level 1 solo dragon then lane for the rest of the match, he said I was muted and reported. (He also joined me and wouldn't leave, refusing to let me even attempt to solo it)

And in URF one time I had a guy who spent literally the entire match nitpicking everything I did, telling me I was stupid and doing this wrong and that wrong, and he acted surprised when I lost my cool.

It's like this every match in every match type, more or less. There's usually at least one person who gets salty and/or toxic for silly reasons. Most of them have an undeserved god complex as well. For a game so focused on teamwork, I don't get why so many get this me-against-the-world mindset and act like everyone else is doing everything in their power to hold them down.

You see it in all the threads about how this and that is why someone's stuck in bronze, not their own play. No, you're never at fault, not even when you spend the entire match being overly critical of everything your teammates do, and have to pile on even when they admit their own shortcomings. "Sorry, I sucked that match." "No, you didn't just suck, you swallowed that ****."

Even the more mild mannered of us can't seem to restrain ourselves from giving in to the trolls. If you don't mute the idiots, and you waste time and energy arguing with them, it's just going to dig you deeper and deeper. You can still win with your garden variety toxic/trollish player if you just focus on the task at hand rather than telling them what's what.

Maybe it's just easier to be mad at the world than at yourself. It's how teenagers approach things, so perhaps League's comprised largely of teenagers or people who never grew past that stage. If I lose, I feel sick to my stomach and start analyzing my performance for things I can try to avoid and improve upon next time. In rare instances I'll find plenty of other culprits in the loss, but in those sorts of matches it either was never going to be a win or I didn't carry hard enough, so what's the point in getting mad?

Just... why? Why must every player be one mistake by a teammate away from evolving into a troll? Why must people treat even co-op and URF matches as if they're ranked? Why must everything be so damned high stakes? I'm really starting to tire of it.

26 Comments

Zmuecat3 votes

Why would you go to a co-op v AI game to try that out? Just go to a custom game. That way if you fail you can just quit and remake it and keep trying.

To answer the general question though, because it's a competitive game. Not only that, it's a team game. Your fun can ruin other peoples fun, your strategy can ruin other peoples game.

Your X can ruin guy Y's Z. If you keep doing X and it keeps pissing people off, maybe you should stop doing X and only do it with friends.

EkkoFroffles1 votes

It was just something I did on a whim. And I wanted to practice my WW a little as well. So two birds, one stone, I thought. It also gives you a little IP, which is always nice. Especially when you're just two quints from finishing your AP rune page. Every bit counts.

Leti the Yeti1 votes

players tend to be mad, have been mad, and continue to be mad kinda like bruce banner they're mad before they even queued up with you most of them have already gone through some shit before they met you if I woke up to a 8 game losing streak, I'd be in a pretty mad state no matter what game mode it is

SantanaTheSlick 1 votes

Skarner can also solo baron at level 4 with red buff and trail blazer i run attack speed quints

EkkoFroffles1 votes

What champions can solo dragon level 3-4? Vi can do it level 4. At least that's as early as I've done it. I know Warwick can do it early as well. Can Pantheon still solo at low levels? This just has me curious.

SantanaTheSlick 1 votes

vi,nunu,skarner,uydr, and volibear so i have seen

EkkoFroffles1 votes

Follow up. If I'm Vi, and my lanes are doing well, is it worth it to do full clear, back, then solo dragon (maybe after another camp or two) at level 4? Her and Warwick have such easy clears, such strong ganks, and dragon doesn't take them too, too long, so I don't think you'd be setting yourself behind too much.

SantanaTheSlick 2 votes

depends on whats happening i can say it would help but aleast ward dragon. But ya if your lanes are winnning and the enemy jungler is struggling do dragon If not i wouldn't do it.

EkkoFroffles1 votes

K. Thanks for the feedback!

SantanaTheSlick 1 votes

its also good to learn at least 3 different junglers so say vi gets banned you can pick your back up picks

EkkoFroffles1 votes

Ahead of you there. Have some experience with Wukong, Amumu, Warwick, Vi, and Sejuani. And I plan to put more time into even more, such as Jarvan IV and Pantheon, as well as learn some entirely new ones, like Volibear and Nautilus.

SmknWdl1 votes

i know shyv can at 4, and I think she could do it at three as well (i havent tried it yet). She can also at lvl 1 with full AS runes :p

Muted Summoner1 votes

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Skarner can also solo baron at level 4 with red buff and trail blazer i run attack speed quints

doesn't even need red buff or blue buff but either is fine. A few pots will allow it to work, of course using a buff though would be more cost effective instead of buying 5 pots.

DrathTurtle3141 votes

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Skarner can also solo baron at level 4 with red buff and trail blazer i run attack speed quints

If you're still level 4 when baron spawns at 20 minutes, you've probably lost the game.

SmknWdl1 votes

OMG IN URF I GOT FLAMED FOR GOING JUNGLE JAX EVEN THOUGH WITHOUT ME JUNGLING EVERY LANE WOULDVE LOST MUCH HARDER. Its urf people chill

EkkoFroffles1 votes

It's like when someone does something off-meta. People just automatically reject it. My friend going Katarina jungle, support, etc. is deserving of scorn. But trying something slightly off the beaten course like Ashe supp or jungling jn URF gets you way more flack than it should.

SmknWdl1 votes

Yeah in teambuilder i almost always accept off meta champs... even bard jungle or bard mid ^_^ Im a believa

EkkoFroffles1 votes

As long as it's nothing TOO crazy, I'll accept it. Like I'm currently loading up a match with a Sejuani support. I think my friend, with his Kat jungle nonsense, has made me immune to raging at stuff like that, though.

Sirsir1 votes

...to be fair its REALLY unpleasant to be the 1v2 guy in urf mode. Don't get me wrong, I would love to try some new junglers (namely Vlad, Cinderhulk + Raba + passive = massive stats) but I don't want to leave someone to feed a 1v2.

pro crastinat0r1 votes

You may want to take a little break from league because your view of the community is pretty warped in my humble opinion.

I played bot games only from level 1-30 I had maybe 10 ragers in all that time.

I played mostly normal games seasons 2-3 and ragers trolls etc. came maybe once every 10+ games

Last season I played a good mixture of ranked and normals and again, trolls ragers etc (on either team) happened only every 10+ games

This season I have actually seen a decrease in ragers trolls etc. I have played almost exclusively ranked, 75 in total games I can only think of maybe two games whose outcome were heavily influenced by a negative player. This is despite the fact that my internet has been really really bad lately (though it seems to have finally been resolved, thank God) and I have had more than my fair share of games where I have lagged out in teamfights, tower dives, in lane, etc. I was pleasantly surprised that the vast vast majority of players were wiling to work with it and did not rage at all.

Now I am discounting your everyday guy who gets rattled when you fall behind and starts blaming team mates or goes on tilt and maybe feeds a few kills. This is because these players actually care about winning games, and with just a little bit of tact you can get the team back on track.

I am not saying that everyone can be calmed down, like I said I have had a few teammates whose attitudes were so bad that they ruined the game for everyone. The best solution to these people is to just mute them, remind the rest of your team to either mute them or at the very least to stop engaging with them, and try your best to win 4v6.

But again, in my experience those type of players are the exception not the rule, and the majority of games can be play out without any kind of grief.

EkkoFroffles1 votes

Then consider yourself lucky. For me, in almost any match, if there's the least bit of adversity there will be people raging, threatening to or going AFK, saying "gg" really early on and constantly calling for surrenders, and people just bickering amongst one another. I'll even see the enemy team take their own squabbles to all chat often. Each match it's "report so and so" when that person is usually just having a bad game. It's to the point that it's rare I get a match where everyone is nice from champ select to the end of the match and people being nice in champ select isn't enough to stop me worrying since I've had unusually cooperative champ selects become absurdly toxic games.

pro crastinat0r1 votes

Jesus I didn't realize how long my first post was.

Anyway it is possible that I have been lucky with my teammates, but I like to believe that the people I am matched with are fairly reasonable human beings and so when adversity comes and people start to tilt, instead of immediately jumping to the conclusion that they are just awful horrible monsters whose entire existence is based around making other people suffer, I encourage the team to start working together and I find that 9 out of 10 times people will settle down.

That is why I suggested at the beginning of that monster of post that you consider taking a short break from league. I think you are letting smaller stuff get to you. If you give yourself some space to calm down and re-group mentally, you might find that the game is much more enjoyable and your teammates are much easier to deal with.

Muffinsong1 votes

I get mad, I admit it. I actually like getting mad, I get addicted to it. lol yeah I am fucked. Yeah some days I have my own shit moments, and other days, I cant get away from yours.

For the Win of the day; I want to win and get it over with, so the reset occurs faster to ensure more ip. I will play aram in hopes to win quicker then slower. I like strategy, but this is a team game, where you need all on the same page for a team game to work. I am trying to win, this means going for an early advantage and dominate. Some will say I play for fun, and I find this means dicking around instead of going for the win.

In Aram its good to try to get bush control and have your team back you for an ambush in attempt for first blood. In aram players want to play for fun and this means letting the enemy know where you are, so they can not face check.

Also players that don't do a simple custom match to learn a champ before playing live. A simple 10 minutes by yourself to learn a champ you never played before, or to test out a jungle route will benefit you more so, then trying to learn and win at the same time. You do not need to finish the custom match, just learn and restart. Its not hard, and worth a lot.

Also the block list is a glorified mute list. I will put some player I did not enjoy playing with on the block list. I will hit play again, and somehow be on the same team again. Why did we have to be on the same team again? Why not enemies instead? I do not want to play with, but sure I will play against. Shit like this just pisses me off, and this is an in game known bug, where if this were true plat players will have to wait longer. So after one bad game, I have to have another. thanks riot.

Other things that grind my gears.

  • I hate being the 5th pick in that PUG. Most of the time, they have their own synergy, plus they seem to be more hard on my actions since im not in sync with theirs. They may play aggressive and will be passive or vice versa.
  • idiots that don't follow pick order. No you cant have the role I also called.
  • idiots that play stupid "support champs" since they have to be support.
  • idiots playing ranked and don't know all the roles, or only have 1-2 mains. Once you get counter jungled hard, then you get a good understanding of all the roles. You need to support jungle pings when he gets counterjungled.
  • not knowing how to team comp. ad vs ap, range vs melee, tanks vs squishy, cc is needed for some assassins champs to shine. aoe/single target.
  • idiots playing and either getting top tunnel vision or jungle tunnel vision and farm more then team up.
  • never group
  • idiots that don't realize the games starts at 0:00, and there is already sight beside turrets, please move around and get sight control.
  • idiots that don't know how to leash.
  • idiots that don't understand a tactical retreat.
Sirsir1 votes

Hormones.

Sorry, bout to eat, can't read the whole topic. But this answers the title :)

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