What compensates for caitlyns 650 range?

UnbeatablePlayer·Jul 12, 2016·7 votes·949 views

Seriously wondering what she has going wrong for her. Her passive gives her 1300 range, and gives her a free 10% attackspeed for some reason.. The headshot does like 500 dmg with a crit with just an infinity edge, and her q has stupid scaling. Physical Damage: 30 / 70 / 110 / 150 / 190 (+ 130 / 140 / 150 / 160 / 170% AD) for reference. This is probably just a rant thread, but she's the safest adc and she probably outputs the most damage too. Pretty boring playing vs that cancerous champ o_e (oh, and the trap increases headshots damage by 70% fucking ad if the 1350913509136% increase wasn't enough from her passive) ???!?!??!?!?!?!

19 Comments

QuephaJul 12, 201611 votes

ATROCIOUS base attack speed, the second worst in the game behind only Graves which means she has terrible scaling with attack speed. "Free attack speed" in the kit is almost always used to make the character scale really poorly with attack speed as they get a base attack speed so low that their baked-in bonus brings them up to average but still leaves them with worse scaling.

Sightless66Jul 12, 20167 votes

Her passive gives her 1300 range, and gives her a free 10% attackspeed for some reason..

There is a reason for that "free" 10% attack speed. She actually pays a very high cost for it. Caitlyn's base attack speed is the worst in the game besides Graves (and he works differently than every other champion). She gets about 10% less value from all attack speed purchases than a champion with the baseline 0.625 attack speed would, and many AD carries have a higher attack speed than that. The "free" 10% attack speed she gets is just to make it so that her last-hitting isn't atriciously bad at level 1 due to poor attack speed. It stops being relevant incredibly fast.

she probably outputs the most damage too.

Oh, definitely not. Her autoattack dps is horrible, and her spells have long enough cast times that you actually lose DPS for casting them in the middle of a fight. Add in the unreliability of her Q and how situational her ult is, and you have an ADC that usually doesn't output much damage in a straight fight. Instead, she relies on her safety to put out damage in situations when other carries couldn't.

This isn't to say that Caitlyn isn't strong. She is quite good. However, your claim that she doesn't have any weaknesses just doesn't hold water.

BLYAT moon AkaliJul 12, 20164 votes

she is a control marksman with less burst than others and with a worse ult than others. seriously, cait's ult is bad. like a 30% chance to execute a single low-life squishy.

UnbeatablePlayerJul 12, 20162 votes

200% of bonus ad and 750 dmg at max rank. if you have 350 ad, that's 700 + 750 1450 damage on one target lol

BLYAT moon AkaliJul 12, 20162 votes

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200% of bonus ad and 750 dmg at max rank. if you have 350 ad, that's 700 + 750 1450 damage on one target lol

it's a channel, it roots her, can't be cancelled, is always eaten by tanks, zhonya'd, trickstered,... it's useless compared to many other adc ults such as vayne, twitch, lucian, corki, jinx, even draven and ezreal maybe, sivir, mf, ashe, jhin,...

Frankey88Jul 12, 20164 votes

teemo, hit q and you win

Slamurai JackJul 12, 20164 votes

Her dps is very low for a marksman until late game, her dueling is garbage, her skills have very long cast times, and her escape has a delay so people that get on top of her very quickly can usually kill her before she can get safely out of range.

BisaknospJul 13, 20161 votes

thank you

JbelsJul 12, 20163 votes

How about the fact that getting on to her usually spells her death? That E might seem like ok enough peel, but the stickier tanks maker her life a living hell

UnbeatablePlayerJul 12, 20166 votes

Literally every adc is dead if you get on them and they don't have qss/their escape lol

JbelsJul 12, 20161 votes

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Literally every adc is dead if you get on them and they don't have qss/their escape lol

Look at that, you solved your own problem. Go get 'em champ

EnvironmentalistJul 12, 20162 votes

1350913509136% increase

Can I ask where you got that stat? ;) haha I really don't find Cait a threat at all. Bully the crap out of her early. I just played vs. one as Blitz and she didn't do so well. Sure she can do decent damage, but all you need to do is dodge her abilities. Q is easy to dodge, and it's not hard to avoid traps. Most games vs. her I don't step in a trap all game.

GibberwattJul 12, 20162 votes

First off, her q damage is cut by a large amoutn after it hits its first enemy.
Second, she is very much like ashe, in that most of her damage comes from aa's. If you would stop letting her tap you for no reason, you would be fine. Third, she is very weak to burst/crap at all in. Most of her damage, like ashe's, comes from standing there and hitting you, over an extended period. If her support goes in, likeliness is she won't be able to follow. Also, if someone jumps on her, she can't get away (her escape is rather crap), and will die in a short period.

UnbeatablePlayerJul 12, 20161 votes

Literally every adc without their escape up / qss will die when jumped on, that's not a valid argument. She has 650 range, 100 more than every other "normal" marksman, every adc gets most of their dmg from aa. Also the trap makes the q damage hit full if they're in the trap.

Unstoppable MonkJul 12, 20162 votes

Her skillcap.

Anyone below a real elo skill ranking of at least gold (not actual ranking), is never going to have the gold to make her carry hard unless they're lucky. Even if they do they can still get assassinated.

AptestJul 12, 20162 votes

well...

clunky spells and a weak ult.