Does nidalee feel like garbage to anyone else?

UnbeatablePlayer··8 votes·1,382 views

I've easily gotten leads with her 5ish minutes in but her spears are suuuuuuuuper easy to dodge, and she has to get close to do any damage which is also impossible if you can't hit spears. There's also predicting movement but noone stupid will walk into your spear. She just feels too weak compared to every other jungler. Basically another elise except elise does what she does better.

31 Comments

Cherysse5 votes

When you sa Nidalee sucks you get kicked to the ground because ppl love seeing pro players with her, but yes, she indeed sucks, her play patter is toxic because it totally requires you to land a super hard to land skillshot to be of any use and even when you do so you might still suck, she is the most unreliable of all assasins in the game and people refuse to accept it.

SwiftKitten884 votes

lol why do u think she has a 45% win rate average across all elos.

it isn't until you reach the top 2% of player where her winrate even REACHES 50% even then it only goes to about 52% at challenger.

she DID have some buffs on PBE and they WOULD be good if her clear was still possible.. but with the removal of her auto resets from the R they are going to need to give her a lot more love for her clear to be viable

Cherysse3 votes

The problem is that they annihilated all of her other roles and made her become less than a mediocre jungler, she needs a rework, her play pattern is toxic, she is either too good and a nightmare to balance or too bad and unplayable.

Arakadia1 votes

She probably does need a rework. I think they removed her from laning because it was too toxic.

Jetjoe4 votes

she sucks nuts, ive posted this 3-4 times and been downvoted to the ground because some guy in korea carried a game last year in LCS. Horrible champ,

SpookyNeedle3 votes

I love playing Nidalee, I'm not the best with her as jungle is my worst role, but I'm definitely trying to get better. She doesn't feel toooo weak

Dakute2 votes

On the contrary I believe she's actually strong atm, and the buffs she's receiving are only going to make her perma banned so no one will get to play her anymore.

SwiftKitten883 votes

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On the contrary I believe she's actually strong atm, and the buffs she's receiving are only going to make her perma banned so no one will get to play her anymore.

i haven't seen a nid banned in my games for four months. she has a 2% ban rate....

Dakute2 votes

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i haven't seen a nid banned in my games for four months. she has a 2% ban rate....

Yea that's cuz she's not really popular where most of the community's rank is.. which is low elo. She's still picked in high diamond+ where people actually have what it takes to play a champ like Nidalee.

UnbeatablePlayer1 votes

Sorry, do diamond players get hit by more spears? As far as I'm concerned nid doesn't gain more cougar damage at high elo. No way she's jumping on an adc or a squishy with any decent team.

Dynikus3 votes

watch players like sysb0t play her. She requires a lot of mechanical skill to do well with, which most people don't have.

UnbeatablePlayer2 votes

there are no mechanics to do well with if a spear is not hittable lol

Dynikus1 votes

So basically what you're saying is she's bad because you can't hit with her skill shot? she's a top tier jungler even right now, and the buffs next patch will easily put her into first pick/ban. She's incredibly good if someone can play her well, which is difficult to do. the guy I mentioned, sysb0t, has a 60% winrate in d5 with her currently.

JJI7441 votes

I do hate to be short, but the person your responding too has it right. She is still a common ban at high rankings, because when a good player has put in the time to learn her, she is exceedingly strong. She is seen as weak generally due to having a high skill floor. Most people just can't play well enough (either in general or specific to Nidalee).

PBE has some changes to Nidalee that should lower the skill level required to play Nidalee. Her AA reset on R (something a lot of people probably don't even know about, let alone use effectively) is being removed, and some of the damage is being moved into abilities. And her Pounce is getting a slow, making kiting camps easier.

Caítlyn2 votes

I miss S3 Nida. Her spears got nerfed from doing 70% of a squishys hp to 30% max, AND they destroyed the hitbox at the same time. That has to be one of the biggest nerfs in history.

IA9hRfpP5q1 votes

Lucian lee

Dynikus1 votes

I don't remember her spears every not being easy to dodge. she's a champion that requires a lot of mechanical skill to play well. But currently on the pbe riot does have quite a few damage buffs for her.

Cherysse1 votes

Play with her, her spears are super thin, they can pass through minions and are super slow, they are really really easy to doge, move for 0,3 seconds and yoo dodge them.

Dynikus1 votes

I don't remember it ever being different though, and I played her back in s1.

Cherysse1 votes

she was different even in S5 and S4, she was super nerfed recently, and when I say super nerfed I mean it, super nerfed, unless you are god tier she is totally unrelliable. She needs a rework urgently.

Dynikus1 votes

Looking at her changelogs, in 4.10 her spear's hitbox was halved, then in 4.11 they increased the spear hitbox again. As far as hitting with her spears go, those are the only changes they've made since her release. And as was already mentioned, she has significant buffs on the pbe currently.

Too Ton1 votes

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Play with her, her spears are super thin, they can pass through minions and are super slow, they are really really easy to doge, move for 0,3 seconds and yoo dodge them.

season 3 ap nidalee ----> 2 shot squishes.... cancer as it forces 5 v 4 late game or if they engage you are too low to do anything,...

Cherysse1 votes

Im am saying: rework her, she is either toxic or unplayable, or both, her play pattern is basically the same that Lux , land Q on a squishy equal to kill secured. The difference is that Lux doesn't have to come close.

Linna Excel1 votes

Spears are how she gets close. You have to hit one from close to medium range, hit R, then all in. She also needs to gank early and win early because she falls off.

The Deckowner1 votes

She is no where near bad... Also she is getting buff next patch...

Only Play Darius1 votes

She's #3 jungler. It's definitely not the champion, perhaps it's the player.

UnbeatablePlayer3 votes

Ofc a baddie thinks he's better at nidalee because people in his elo have no idea how to dodge spears

Only Play Darius1 votes

I'm not the one posting about how I can't win on a tier 1 jungler. Sounds like you're the only "baddie" here.

UnbeatablePlayer3 votes

Calling a jungler who relies on a thin skillshot that moves slow a tier1 jungler. x DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Dynikus2 votes

she is, though. Just because you're not good with her, doesn't mean she's bad.

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