"what's the counterplay to Faceless void?"

KONO RUBICK DA··2 votes·722 views

"shut down him in early game"-> nerfed 3 or 4 patch in a row cause once he had mask of madness he could kill anyone without any counterplay

I can't wait for you to realise that vayne share the same problem. you can shut down her as long as you want once she has item 3153 there is no way to duel her, there is no way to flee from her, and there is no fcking way to counter her damage with her %hp true damage .

now i let you "shut down her in early game"

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Lynxonyx2 votes

Honestly, item 3153 should be a melee only item.

ZerglingOne2 votes

A well positioned Atropos or Enigma with blink dagger.

Any other questions?

Oh wait, didn't answer your vayne question. Yeah, don't duel her. Play Malphite and press R and then E. If you must duel her, play Malzahar Jax MasterYi Nasus. For the ones that have gap closers, save them for after Condemn instead of blowing them immediately.

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

Faceless void counter? no, he will dash->ulti->press mask of madness and right click you with a no counterplay insta 4 seconds stun

atleast that was before he received 4 nerfs when people said "just shut down him early game"

Malphite press E, vayne does AA->reset of AA->condemn proc one silver bolt, then the duration of the slow ends and vayne kills malphite item 3140 fucks up malz's ulti E and ignite Jax MasterYi can't duel vayne unless they trap her in a bush Nasus counters every ADC, but counters less vayne since she can manage to bait AA slow reduction take mercury to reduce the slow to 3 seconds and deals %hp true damage

ZerglingOne2 votes

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Faceless void counter? no, he will dash->ulti->press mask of madness and right click you with a no counterplay insta 4 seconds stun

atleast that was before he received 4 nerfs when people said "just shut down him early game"

Malphite press E, vayne does AA->reset of AA->condemn proc one silver bolt, then the duration of the slow ends and vayne kills malphite

Jax MasterYi can't duel vayne unless they trap her in a bush Nasus counters every ADC, but counters less vayne since she can manage to bait AA slow reduction take mercury to reduce the slow to 3 seconds and deals %hp true damage

Your implication was that with 1 item she can't be dueled. That is not true. By other ADC? Yeah there's a bit of truth to that since raw AD steroids are almost nonexistent on ranged carries with the exception of vayne and twitch, hers being far more potent.

Auto attack resets don't circumvent the increased swing delay that attack speed slows impose.

Malphite's E has 90% up time. The slow never really ends.

Yi and jax can easily out duel her mid game.

People sure do complain about her true damage a lot after getting 4 or 5 shot by her. Never mind that it can only proc 1 time in that window, it must be what killed you.

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

the slow lasts 3 seconds 2 with 7 seconds cd? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA38rTZeoAM 50 seconds with a pink wards and without a stun

ZerglingOne2 votes

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the slow lasts 3 seconds 2 with 7 seconds cd? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA38rTZeoAM 50 seconds with a pink wards and without a stun

And ahead a full item? Wow, Vayne can duel someone who is a minimum of 2800 gold behind her?! Amazing.

Also, the malphite E has a 4.2s cd with 40% CDR. Sorry, only 75% up time.

Let's see, Ashe had taken damage from leblanc and had no complete items, Yasuo had 2 dorans blades and zerks with 0 crit vs a completed late game item and was also already damaged. I don't see anything inconsistent with someone being ahead in all of these (frankly very old) clips of someone pubstomping. Despite playing the fights terribly and being a full item behind vayne, Yi still almost beats her both times which means he would have destroyed her if he was on par.

Meepo4u1 votes

Faceless void wasn't nerfed because of MoM. He was nerfed because in competitive play he was landing 6 second AoE unbreakable stuns on 3 people and killing two of them. His ult, with Aghs, was also on a 60s cooldown, meaning it was up EVERY SINGLE TEAMFIGHT. They nerfed his ult, not MoM. This is like saying Tinker is OP because of bottle and BoT's.

Source: 4.7k MMR in DotA

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