I'm glad old LeBlanc is coming back to League of Legends in 8.8

ChickenWrap·Apr 6, 2018·4 votes·1,160 views

Very glad. New LeBlanc was too much work, so just reverting her to the cancer that she was before all the changes is a good step forward, I think.

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AhristocatsApr 6, 20187 votes

and then you look at the changes and realise she will be different than pre rework

keeko

ChickenWrapApr 6, 20183 votes

I don't think "slight numbers tweaks and a small change on her E to no longer slow" makes her very different from pre-rework. Do you?

AhristocatsApr 6, 20187 votes

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Do you?

I do

also my friend that is slightly way too smart for me, let me tell you that they also gutting the speed on her dash and reducing the time where she can tp back with W

but since you were too smart you completly forgot that even when leblanc win rate went from 50 to 43% after her dash speed nerf in s5

oh, how did i forget the cd nerf on ult!

ChickenWrapApr 6, 20182 votes

But it's still 4 seconds? Just like old LB? Lol.

But like I said, some slight numbers tweaks and you think she's suddenly an entirely different champion from pre-rework when she's not. Her entire kit works almost virtually the same. She even got her old passive back.

Her "new" kit works exactly like the one she used to have, sans very few differences in numbers and the removal of an E slow. Don't nitpick this hard.

ankoanko19Apr 6, 20181 votes

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But it's still 4 seconds? Just like old LB? Lol.

But like I said, some slight numbers tweaks and you think she's suddenly an entirely different champion from pre-rework when she's not. Her entire kit works almost virtually the same. She even got her old passive back.

Her "new" kit works exactly like the one she used to have, sans very few differences in numbers and the removal of an E slow. Don't nitpick this hard.

They're making it so that you have to use your E more. They've added a lot more counterplay (slower dash, a delay on her w, no E slow, E tether range being smaller and easier to break and shown to enemies). Also I find it VERY ironic how a Shaco main is saying ''LB WUZ CANCER''. Like, isn't the old LB literally a ranged Shaco ? Invis, mobility and burst, but you know, one has a shit lategame whereas the other one scales incredibly.

ChickenWrapApr 7, 20182 votes

So Old LB was a ranged assassin who had a slow that became a snare with the tether range of half the screen, two dashes to get away from anything, her burst combo was insanely fast from half a screen away, and then she could blink back to her original position.

Yeah she was a "trickster" mage, but she was nothing like what Shaco was. Good try though, dude. You still don't know a single thing thing about Shaco, but keep at it, my man.

ankoanko19Apr 7, 20181 votes

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So Old LB was a ranged assassin who had a slow that became a snare with the tether range of half the screen, two dashes to get away from anything, her burst combo was insanely fast from half a screen away, and then she could blink back to her original position.

Yeah she was a "trickster" mage, but she was nothing like what Shaco was. Good try though, dude. You still don't know a single thing thing about Shaco, but keep at it, my man.

They removed the slow. You cant dash twice without your W being your previous spell Yeah shacos combo def isnt fast. Stealth + backstab just straight out kills anyone that isnt a bruiser/tank or janna. Shaco can also ''blink'' to his original position now with his Q buff, theyve also added a 0.2s delay on her W so you can abuse her if she uses her W to dmg you.

ChickenWrapApr 7, 20182 votes

Yes they removed the slow. You shouldn't be allowed to dash twice without W being the previous spell in the first place. That does not make her a different champion. Don't be an idiot. If that's what you think about Shaco's combo, I don't have anything to say to you because you're so wrong it hurts. Shaco can't "blink" to his original anything. He needs his Q to engage or he dies before he even touches his target? What Q buff are you even talking about? Hello?

ankoanko19Apr 7, 20181 votes

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Yes they removed the slow. You shouldn't be allowed to dash twice without W being the previous spell in the first place. That does not make her a different champion. Don't be an idiot. If that's what you think about Shaco's combo, I don't have anything to say to you because you're so wrong it hurts. Shaco can't "blink" to his original anything. He needs his Q to engage or he dies before he even touches his target? What Q buff are you even talking about? Hello?

Yeah so stop complaining about her tether slowing you if youre not gonna get slowed lol.

Yeah.. what am i supposed to answer to that? You can't dash twice without your W being your last spell, and Leblancs fast combo usually isnt Q+W+R but E+Q+R+W.

She is supposed to be an assassin. The rework + all the nerfs made her a ''burst'' mage with a mobility spell.

Wtf are you talking about? Shaco with 2 or more lethality items stealths, backstabs and E's you and if youre not tanky enough youre most likely gonna die. There is the occasional ''put the W infront of you before you exit stealth'' combo but its not used that often.

I'm talking about the Q buff where you get a part of your cd back if you hit something after 0.2s of your Q ending. Also Shacos Q is already a blink that stealths you(which makes it so that you dont need flash on him), so idk why the fuck youre complaining about Leblanc having a blink when your beloved character has it too, and a much better one aswell! You might say ''but Leblanc has a dash'' yeah her 1450 speed dash which literally is one of the slowest in the games.

ChickenWrapApr 7, 20182 votes

... What are you even trying to argue here? I'm not saying she has a slow right now. Old LB had a slow. You compared old LB to old Shaco. Did you forget what you said or something?

LeBlanc's fastest combo was WQRE. It gives the least amount of time to react.

What is a mobile burst mage if not an assassin?

That's literally not what happens. W also has a two second arm time, it's not usable as a reliable spell drop in trying to kill somebody. Unless Shaco is hyper-fed and has way more gold than everyone else, the best he can hope for is about half of your health and even then that's only past a certain level threshold.

You are so uneducated on Shaco that it's making me physically hurt, dude. That has been a part of his kit since his rework.

https://puu.sh/zYisH/a53ab3ed27.png

They didn't add anything extra on to his Q except for some basic damage after they had removed it a few patches ago. Here's what the change in the patch notes was, since you didn't read them.

https://puu.sh/zYiuR/6e60ac7ac3.png

Shaco wants to take flash, but ignite is better because his early-game is so bad he needs ignite to snowball. He's always been that way. Flash is amazing on Shaco and fixes so many of his problems (such as having no form of escape after using Q to engage).

LeBlanc has access to two of them and can jump back to them. That's the big thing. LeBlanc can engage and disengage with one spell but i'm not even complaining about it. You were the one who wanted to compare Shaco to OLD LeBlanc, remember? But then you decided that I was

Comparing Shaco to the LB on the PBE for some reason and
Whining about it?

Get a grip and figure out what exactly you're even saying, because right now you're looking really uneducated in regards to League and what you're trying to say.