"Dead Man's Plate was nerfed so it wouldn't be crowded with other HP and armor items"

DJ S0NA··6 votes·1,119 views

> Dead Man's Plate was originally tuned to be a good purchase in a world where Randuin's Omen, Thornmail, and Frozen Heart had their previous live values. With the nerfs to those items, DMP was a bit more efficient than it should be.

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I find myself (and many other players) buying item 3143 on Fighters, Juggernauts and Tanks like Garen, Darius, Poppy, Skarner, Lee Sin, Ekko, Gragas, Malphite, etc, more than item 3742 .

The item was introduced for these classes to have more variety in their builds. item 3742 was nerfed a few times and the last time it was nerfed, total cost was increased by 100 and the passive "crushing blow" slow decreased to 50%.

This nerf was kinda the low blow for it. Don't get me wrong, the movement speed is very valued, but now Randuins and Sunfire is crowding DMP place in the rift.

Randuins Omen item 3143 extra 10 armor, -10% on critical strikes and the 4 second slow active is extremely more useful than the single target item 3742 's slow. The burn on Sunfire Cape is more useful for fighting than item 3742 .

item 3742 should be re-buffed on the passive for not being than of a worthy item for the classes I wrote.

6 Comments

redniwediS3 votes

Honestly Dead Man's Plate is still a good item. The only reason it is not as popular right now, in my opinion at least, is because the utility from it's movement speed is less valuable than the combat stats from other armor items.

I still like to use Dead Man's Plate, and I choose it over Randuin's, but I really feel it when I should have taken Randuin's instead. Damage feels so high right now that extra movement speed and a single target slow is just not worth it compared to crit/attack speed reduction or extra AoE damage.

Yes Dead Man's Plate "helps" you stay with a target, but as a Garen main who saw Garen's movement speed nerfed after Dead Man's Plate was added I'd rather just see the item done away with and have it's niche use made into a small buff for the champions it was supposed to help.

ProfDrDeath2 votes

DMP should slowly become more popular now, considering that boot enchantments have been removed and Swifties will be nerfed next patch.

YumaS2Astral1 votes

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Honestly Dead Man's Plate is still a good item. The only reason it is not as popular right now, in my opinion at least, is because the utility from it's movement speed is less valuable than the combat stats from other armor items.

I still like to use Dead Man's Plate, and I choose it over Randuin's, but I really feel it when I should have taken Randuin's instead. Damage feels so high right now that extra movement speed and a single target slow is just not worth it compared to crit/attack speed reduction or extra AoE damage.

Yes Dead Man's Plate "helps" you stay with a target, but as a Garen main who saw Garen's movement speed nerfed after Dead Man's Plate was added I'd rather just see the item done away with and have it's niche use made into a small buff for the champions it was supposed to help.

I still like to use Deadman's Plate on most situations. The movement speed is just too good to pass up, it makes you just that harder to kite. There is a reason why Boots of Swiftness are the most popular boots right now.

That doesn't mean I don't use Sunfire Cape, but there are times where I would rather have the movement speed from Deadman's Plate, especially if the champion I am using already has natural combat stats.

CoolKnightST1 votes

Before item 3143 wasn't even bought when their where 2 crit champions on the enemy team. item 3742 is far from useless and it's actualy still verry strong in situational events. One of the reason why the item hasn't been seen that often anymore is because of the popular item 3009 that can pretty much solve most juggernaut mobility problems. It even goes that far it replaces item 3117. I still don't get why they still didn't give item 3117 a higher flat movementspeed. Even 30 would already be verry suitable.

Overal the armor itematisation is still a mess. We have item 3110, but I prefer item 3025 every time. We have item 3056 that no one buys. We have item 3075 that is a core for one champion and a situational for another.

I think it will be a hard task to ballance out this item group. The current itematisation is not really suitable to split Vanguards & Wardens into two groups. And than we didn't even mention Juggernauts & Divers

Wolfram Oxford1 votes

Fuck tanks

MunchCrunchLunch1 votes

i still get DMP sometimes. if we're ahead. its just a fun item to build on any tank. but yeah its way better to get sunfire or randuins for the combat stats and sunfire wavecldear and randuins damage reduction.

i like to get it on tank ekko along with sunfire because i like that initial burst on my E. and for fun too. and i get it on darius because its really good on him

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