Darius problems go far beyond conqueror Riot..

Kaisa is Hot·9/14/2018, 10:13:31 PM·1 votes·1,150 views

His scaling is too good for a champion of his kit. You can't give someone 140% Total AD ratio on a Q, a 160% total AD W, knowing they are going to build trinity force and black cleaver, and on top of that give him free 30% armor penetration on his E, plus a hard CC, PLUS a soft cc on his crippling strike. His kit is overloaded for what he's suppose to do and something needs to be done about it.... Without touching items that other champions rely so heavily on. Darius was never a champion build from the ground up meant to use trinity force and have more true damage on top of his ultimate.

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King of Demons9/14/2018, 10:39:04 PM3 votes

Yet he is balanced because he is a melee dude that gets kited to hell. If he catches you, you SHOULD die. Working as intended. Mindplay him, make him waste E, then just dance around his range.

You can't just list everything a champ has and ignore everything he doesn't have. He has no dash, no mobility or movement speed outside of BC/Phage/Trinity effect which requires him to kill or at least attack a minion to catch you. He is the definition of a noob stomper though, just like Garen but with a reset. Complain about Garen next.

EbonyBladeJ889/14/2018, 10:41:18 PM3 votes

Darius is a Juggernaut. Juggernaut champions are described as such by Riot:

"Juggernauts are melee titans who relentlessly march down the opposition and devastate those foolish enough to get within their grasp. They are the only subclass who excel at both dealing and taking significant amounts of damage, but in turn they have a tough time closing in on targets due to their low range and extremely limited mobility."

So, based on that description, we can surmise that Darius is INTENDED to be able to dish out large amounts of damage, like his fellow Juggernauts. His durability is granted from the defensive items he buys and his Q heal. So, the idea of him having good scaling in his kit is because he, like many of the other Juggernauts, are basically all-in, all the time. Pure Offensive Playstyles. Go big or go home. How else can I put it?

However, unlike some Juggernauts, such as Garen with his W's passive and active, Trundle and his Armor/MR steal with his Ult, or maybe Urgot and Udyr with the shields on their respective W's, Darius does NOT have any PURELY DEFENSIVE aspects built into his kit.

One could perhaps say that his Q's heal on the outer circle is defensive, but I personally (An L7 Darius player, just as a heads up) don't consider that defensive. It is simply the survivability that he as a Juggernaut is afforded.

He does not have an ability that grants him DMG reduction, or Tenacity, only a Heal which is only applied when hitting Champions with the outer circle of the Q blade. Hitting with the inner circle does only 35% damage and it doesn't heal OR give him a stack of his passive.

Next, where does it say that item 3078 gives him additional true damage? Sheen gives him a boost on his next AA after using an ability, yeah, but IT doesn't give true damage. Phage gives him an MS Boost, but it doesn't give true damage.

Sure, taking https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/2/20/Conqueror_rune.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/64?cb=20180314225947 Conqueror gives him more true damage, by converting 20% of the damage he already dealt INTO true damage. But considering his Ult ALREADY DOES True damage, the conversion is meaningless, and the only purpose it serves is giving him bonus attack damage upon proccing it. Since he already has that in the form of his Noxian Might, it's not as effective on him as other Keystone runes might be. Sure, he obviously won't say no to more free AD, but at LVL 1 he gets 30 AD from Noxian Might, which is just 5 less than what Conqueror gives at LVL 18! At LVL 2 he gets 35, and at LVL 3 he gets 40, outscaling it in 2 whole levels.

Darius is off-set by the fact that unlike these Juggernauts Garen Shyvana Udyr Volibear maybe a few others that I might not remember off the top of my head, he does not have a Speed Boost built into his kit. He has to BUY the items that will grant him such things, items like item 3800 item 3044 and the like.

Yes, Darius is strong. He's DESIGNED to be strong as a Juggernaut. Play people who are quick and moblie, or can kite him and you'll have him cursing your name to the high heavens. He CAN BE BEATEN.

Manes Shade9/15/2018, 12:22:25 AM2 votes

Maybe you should... Takes off Sunglasses summoner 4 in a flash. (

[garen-swing] But seriously Playing as a Garen main, I understand your problem as a Darius. IF the player is any good at kiting, it is an absolute joke and I just give up on chases. I build 3-4 Movement buffing Items and I still get outran by champs with only boots so it literally just takes one bonus movement Item and you will be scott free from the dreadnoughts.

But usually If I can catch you 1 to 1 I will win unless your fed.

Darth Rodan9/14/2018, 11:02:22 PM1 votes

If he has flash, he gets the kill no matter what. Even if you have flash, he will snare you before your flash goes off. A guaranteed kill every 3 minutes is a bit bull shit.