450 armor before Eclipse is used, and after Eclipse each proc should've been at least 100 thorn damage. How much is dealt to the enemy attackers? LESS THAN ZERO.
"It's not supposed to hurt them", right? So why does it even exist if it can't out-damage enemy sustain even on tanks with +500 armor?
CerealBoxOfDoom3 votesthornmail deals magic damage each opponent had magic resist you were playing jungle leona against 3 champs that had lifesteal or something similar 2 of them had bork which partly bypasses thornmail especially if the target has too much hp 1 has a passive that gives penetration and healing based off your hp as well.
This is not thornmail's fault, its your own.
Also thornmail doesnt stop healing, it gimps it, it slows it to the point its not very significant unless the one using it made a terrible mistake.
darkdill2 votesEven so, for it to have absolutely ZERO effect against the ZED? That's something I have trouble believing.
And in any event, shouldn't Thornmail feel POWERFUL if you have it with 500+ armor? Wasn't that what Riot wanted? If not, then the idea of thorns in League is flawed and the mechanic should be either reworked or removed.
GaleWinUnleashed3 votesZed has a bit of armor pen, a bit of life steal (life steal also applies to damage dealt by the BotRK on-hit), and a good chunk of magic resist.
Basically, your Thornmail purchase wrecked their attempts to life-steal off of you. But the magic resist they had was able to cut down the damage enough that they didn't get directly damaged with each attack.
MLDzXnRRR1 votesThornmail is good only vs people that are completely autoattack dependant - Trynda, old Trist, old Fiora etc. That Vayne had Mercurial and Bork, so the return dmg was probably negated.
darkdill1 votesRiot wants NO Champions to be completely auto-attack dependent, so that tells me they want to phase out Thornmail. They probably think Thorns is toxic anyways.