Mao'Kai has Vi ult on a 9s cooldown

KoKoboto·Aug 1, 2017·3 votes·551 views

xd Really tho champions that could use some Warwick level gameplay changes

19 Comments

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 1, 20172 votes

lol are you equating maokai's Q with vi's ult ? and saying they are the same thing ?

meowwow7Aug 1, 20171 votes

i think he meant the w that follows people and roots them

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 1, 20171 votes

its not a 9 second cd

it is at max rank Twisted Advance TARGET RANGE: 525 COST: 60 / 65 / 70 / 75 / 80 MANA COOLDOWN: 13 / 12 / 11 / 10 / 9 MAGIC DAMAGE: 50 / 75 / 100 / 125 / 150 (+ 40% AP) ROOT DURATION: 1 / 1.1 / 1.2 / 1.3 / 1.4

Assault and Battery TARGET RANGE: 800 COST: 100 / 125 / 150 MANA COOLDOWN: 150 / 115 / 80 PHYSICAL DAMAGE: 150 / 300 / 450 (+ 140% bonus AD) Vi dashes to the target enemy champion, dealing physical damage and knocking them up for 1.25 seconds on arrival. Vi is immune to crowd control while dashing, knocking aside and dealing 75% damage to enemies in her way.

no if he is talking about maokai' W vs VI's ult they are not one in the same... her ult has way more damage and more damage scaling and can do damage to multiple enemies on her way to her target

the range isnt the same. maokai dont build damage, vi does, she typically gets item 1400 item 3078 item 3071 plus has a small gap closer on her Q , her W does % hp damage and reduces armor

maokai has % hp damage as magic damage on E but cant target the enemy , he has no built in magic pen or resistances shreds nor a shield

is maokai strong YES

is vi in a bad spot YEA

but comparing them is like comparing a tree to a woman no where the same

bxAmkd7pIFAug 1, 20172 votes

Actually OP isn't far off. Vi's ult does awful damage now.

nm1010Aug 1, 20173 votes

https://i.gyazo.com/7e771c4da9a312338d963e0c1cdb5068.png

https://i.gyazo.com/30551edc81e09ef6c94227bac6c8e80e.png

So close to being the same ability.

bxAmkd7pIFAug 3, 20171 votes

Are you being sarcastic? I can't tell.

nm1010Aug 3, 20171 votes

Well let's compare the two

Maokai

525 range

Become untargetable and roots the target

At level 6 50 damage + 40% ap, 1 second snare

At level 11 100 damage + 40% ap, 1.2 second snare

At level 13 150 damage + 40% ap, 1.4 second snare

800 range

Knocks aside people in the way of the target dealing ~80% damage to them and knocks up the primary target for 1.25 seconds.

At level 6 150 damage + 140% bonus ad, 1.25 second knock up - Total possible damage = ~630 + 560% bonus ad

At level 11 300 damage + 140% bonus ad, 1.25 second knock up - Total possible damage = ~1260 + 560% bonus ad

At level 16 450 damage + 140% bonus ad, 1.25 second knock up - Total possible damage = ~1890 + 560% bonus ad

Are they close to the same ability?

PopcornBunniAug 1, 20172 votes

So Rakan has a Malphite ult on a 12 second cooldown?

Big LincolnAug 1, 20171 votes

yes?

koshkyraAug 1, 20171 votes

why lissandra and vi tho

NiyumiAug 1, 20171 votes

Liss, Vi, Hec and Elise are fine. The rest I agree though.

KoKobotoAug 1, 20171 votes

Lissandra because her passive sucks and because she's never viable anymore with the crazy shield values supports get. I feel she should be more like Swain/Vladimir with a hint of Ahri. Meaning tankier and abilities that promote beefing up a bit and kiting. Of course her ultimate is super unique and should stay but I feel it could be done better as well.

Vi for same reasons as Lissandra. She's a diver but her ultimate has become pretty underwhelming since it first came out. She should build more like a fighter but her best builds are 1 damage item into full tank. She doesn't do enough damage if she lands Q and if the enemy squishies have a support next to em good luck doing anything.

Rux100Aug 1, 20171 votes

I love lissandra the way she is. She's one champion that can legitimately punish champions who try to dive the backline, and heavily at that. I play her vs nearly every melee assassin because you just cant get that close and get away with it.

Maybe she's not "meta" right now but she is just fine.

KoKobotoAug 1, 20171 votes

Same. Changes for her should amplify her strengths like that. Like I said kiting.

Big LincolnAug 1, 20171 votes

champs that should be reworked

Sejuani Maokai Zac

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 1, 20171 votes

you keep my tree out of your propaganda

Big LincolnAug 1, 20171 votes

keep mao's new passive cos it's pretty neat

give him the old ult in a shorter window

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 1, 20171 votes

people cried it was his old ult that was the issue and why he was strong... cuz it made every one too safe and he could win trades in 1 vs 1 or well sometimes 1 vs 2 and get kills

and that is was no skill and blah blah blah and his new ult is skillful of how you use it and it was just a stat check /reduction etc for a team

(oh by the way i miss old maokai, give me my % hp damage on my W, give me my impact damage on E give me my old ult back )