Duskblade auto attack does quite a lot of damage huh? But wait.. what about that tho..

Penns·Jul 15, 2017·6 votes·1,643 views

Aight so youre a level 18 full build assassin, Duskblade does 360 extra physical damage.

Meanwhile the level 16 adc that crits with already does more than 360 bonus magic damage, which is better than physical since MR is lower. And it scales up to 400 at level 18.

From range. Hitting up to 5 targets with the full damage. While being a kill cheaper. On an item that gives really good wave clear. And while being easier to proc more than once in a fight if you dont have stealth like Kha Zix.

heh

29 Comments

archerno1Jul 15, 20176 votes

Yet combined cost of those 2 items is 6k gold while Duskblade is only 2900. For only 2900 gold Duskblade gives sooo much power to Assassin. Cmon there are tons of compilations in just 2 days of people deleting enemies with just Duskblade and laughing their ass off saying "this is so broken"

ApocalypsicJul 15, 20171 votes

The real kicker is to combine all three. A certain bird lady comes to mind.

Fuh QueueJul 15, 20172 votes

Yeah swain with those 3 items is obnoxious.

Obviously not a Quinn main

archerno1Jul 15, 20171 votes

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Yeah swain with those 3 items is obnoxious.

Obviously not a Quinn main

I legit thought he meant Xayah and i was confused

Need Gold 4 TentJul 15, 20171 votes

he did say "lady". unless... there's something swain isn't telling us

ApocalypsicJul 15, 20171 votes

Nah, I was clearly referring to Sivir. She's related to Azir so there's gotta be some bird in there somewhere.

PennsJul 15, 20172 votes

Both are standard items anyway that almost every adc buys, you dont go out of your way to get the burst from Shiv + Infinity. Besides, even if you dont have IE, Shiv will crit for 320 damage, potentially hitting a whole team, from range,.. you know.

Videos of fed assassins or other casters oneshotting squishies? How about https://i.gyazo.com/032e834ce9bcd0ff54f1756f4c9ab3ca.png https://i.gyazo.com/3ef44bd068ab5286649050ba833ed050.png https://i.gyazo.com/b6dd1f9a4454f6168f56eb4e40d6d363.png ?

archerno1Jul 15, 20173 votes

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Both are standard items anyway that almost every adc buys, you dont go out of your way to get the burst from Shiv + Infinity. Besides, even if you dont have IE, Shiv will crit for 320 damage, potentially hitting a whole team, from range,.. you know.

Videos of fed assassins or other casters oneshotting squishies? How about https://i.gyazo.com/032e834ce9bcd0ff54f1756f4c9ab3ca.png https://i.gyazo.com/3ef44bd068ab5286649050ba833ed050.png https://i.gyazo.com/b6dd1f9a4454f6168f56eb4e40d6d363.png ?

Ye but thats 5 items Corki(i believe). Im talking about oneshotting with just 1 or 2 items

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmTxoiYvpl4

5:20

Gragas with Lich Bane and Duskblade oneshots Xayah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKSX0ql7QQ4

0:45

Garen with Duskblade almost oneshots Jhin

Its so broken everyone is abusing it. Tanks, battle mages, juggernauts, ADCs, Assassins, Bruisers. Everyone.

PennsJul 15, 20172 votes

What else are assassins supposed to do? Duskblade passive gives like 200 damage if you get it as first item, I doubt it completely broke the game and made everyone oneshot everything.

Assassins are supposed to oneshot, especially if adcs are allowed to have 1k+ crits from 700+ range with Shiv.

archerno1Jul 15, 20172 votes

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What else are assassins supposed to do? Duskblade passive gives like 200 damage if you get it as first item, I doubt it completely broke the game and made everyone oneshot everything.

Assassins are supposed to oneshot, especially if adcs are allowed to have 1k+ crits from 700+ range with Shiv.

Assassins are supposed to single out separated target, burst it down and escape. Not to jump in middle of team delete enemy before anyone can react.

nm1010Jul 15, 20172 votes

Funny thing is I was 17 kill talon yesterday and I stopped being able to one shot the adc when he built an armor item (GA). It's almost like armor counters duskblades physical damage...

Here is the game now that I am at my computer

https://i.gyazo.com/b70ebc9602e10b29b589c234ddbfe17a.png

nm1010Jul 15, 20175 votes

7-1 gragas with levels on xayah killed her with a full damage build, who would've guessed? Especially since panunu does that all the time with standard ap builds anyway.

Edit: since you added a second video that hides the scores/builds I will just point out Garen was also critting. So he probably has an IE at least on top of that duskblade.

Sahn UzalJul 15, 20176 votes

Man I saw this one guy pop off on AP Ashe, Ashe must really be abusing AP items now ain't she?

AmazoXJul 15, 20174 votes

#Thread bout to be stomped onto hell by adc players in 3...2..1.

Dani El PezgloboJul 15, 20173 votes

Duskblade is op, but adc items are just broken as fuck , really ga , lifesteal and statik are a mess right now, riot should hotfix this now.

i dont know how riot can think this is ok being so cheap

archerno1Jul 15, 20171 votes

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Duskblade is op, but adc items are just broken as fuck , really ga , lifesteal and statik are a mess right now, riot should hotfix this now.

i dont know how riot can think this is ok being so cheap

Because it gives low stats and CD is very high. If they increase price, they need to reduce CD and give more stats

Dani El PezgloboJul 15, 20171 votes

didnt agree , 1300 is 40 ad , 300 10 armor, so u are paying only 800 to being able to revive every 5 min, 2 me sounds kinda unfair, it should cost at least 2600 gold, so it isnt so cheap u rush item, U are an adc, ur value 4 being alive is extremly strong pay 800 gold to being able to stay on tf is just stupid, nerf the object o change it, this + cheap crit is the reason why adc are so unfair right now.

archerno1Jul 15, 20172 votes

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didnt agree , 1300 is 40 ad , 300 10 armor, so u are paying only 800 to being able to revive every 5 min, 2 me sounds kinda unfair, it should cost at least 2600 gold, so it isnt so cheap u rush item, U are an adc, ur value 4 being alive is extremly strong pay 800 gold to being able to stay on tf is just stupid, nerf the object o change it, this + cheap crit is the reason why adc are so unfair right now.

Oh for the love of god

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Gold_efficiency/All

GA is one of mediocre gold efficiency items.

Dani El PezgloboJul 15, 20171 votes

how worth is dont die on tf? can u value that? pasive cant be gold efficiency , gold efficiency only take stats , ok so its fair pay 800 gold so on min 30 dat twich/ashe / whatever didnt die and win the tf, main problem is that ADC shouldnt get this , i think ga is ok on bruisers but not on adc, with a sup that peels , redention , solary lifesteal etc is enough , at least before if u buy ga u lost damage , now not event that

archerno1Jul 15, 20171 votes

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how worth is dont die on tf? can u value that? pasive cant be gold efficiency , gold efficiency only take stats , ok so its fair pay 800 gold so on min 30 dat twich/ashe / whatever didnt die and win the tf, main problem is that ADC shouldnt get this , i think ga is ok on bruisers but not on adc, with a sup that peels , redention , solary lifesteal etc is enough , at least before if u buy ga u lost damage , now not event that

Ye but u are not looking at reality of situation. It can save u only once every 5 minutes. Lets say Syndra uses her full combo on you while u have GA. It will save u once, but by the time its back off CD she can kill u 4 more times. GA should be item for ADC as they are priority targets always.

Big LincolnJul 15, 20172 votes

lol one armor item is usually enough to let you survive that burst.

got fed as shaco but as soon as Diana finished zhonya I couldn't kill her solo

Tobias BracknerJul 15, 20171 votes

What's the problem with 2 legendary items dealing more damage than one legendary?

Dani El PezgloboJul 15, 20172 votes

What he means is that statick do moreless same damage and doesnt need any condition / can be use more than 1 time on fight, but people complain bout draktar

Tobias BracknerJul 15, 20171 votes

Sure.

lolibusJul 15, 20171 votes

So is assassin meta coming back? Not a fan of that and reason why I quit league once. Kazix, Rengar, Zed every game and your adc and including myself (support) get oneshot every game all the time and dived every 2 minutes.

[zombie-nunu-bummed]

lolipopevelynnJul 15, 20171 votes

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So is assassin meta coming back? Not a fan of that and reason why I quit league once. Kazix, Rengar, Zed every game and your adc and including myself (support) get oneshot every game all the time and dived every 2 minutes.

[zombie-nunu-bummed]

there was no such thing as an "Assassin meta". The true story of pre class update assassins was that only a couple full glass canon assassins were actually problematic, and that was fizz and talon because they lacked counterplay. other assassins, like ekko, rengar, and kha, would have the tendency to build tank while still doing assassin level damage. TRUE glass canon assassins were never a problem, not even once. they were there to keep ADCs in check, but riot decided to just massively nerf both tank build assassins and full glass canon assassins.

now that ADCs cant actually burst down a target fast enough you can see how problematic ADCs are. the "ADC meta" however has never went away. no matter what happens, ADCs are always good and always picked. you will see different top lane, supp, mid, and jg picks, but you will never see a different ADC pick. even the "ziggs ADC" flavor of the month pick didnt last long. They also tried it with reworking morde into a bot lane pick but that was a massive failure.

ShablagooJul 15, 20171 votes

You not getting one shot with your support, as league is now no assassin can beat an adc or support by themselves unless the support doesnt do their job or the adc is jsut running away. The support role rn is so strong that if you fight them both the assassin will die because you all you dmg will be shielded or healed or exh. Along with the heal and flash the adc gets, you can tell me assassins are beating an adc and support both, if they are the assassin is fed and youve lost the game or your already behind. If you are behind you should die.

lolipopevelynnJul 15, 20171 votes

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Aight so youre a level 18 full build assassin, Duskblade does 360 extra physical damage.

Meanwhile the level 16 adc that crits with already does more than 360 bonus magic damage, which is better than physical since MR is lower. And it scales up to 400 at level 18.

From range. Hitting up to 5 targets with the full damage. While being a kill cheaper. On an item that gives really good wave clear. And while being easier to proc more than once in a fight if you dont have stealth like Kha Zix.

heh

the crit from shyve does more dmg, + there is the actual physical crit itself which is doing dmg again. ADCs are the new assassins, thats what ADC mains have wanted for years and riot caved in like monkeys. Shadow kayne is a PERFECT EMBODIMENT of the current sorry state of assassins. worthless. i literally got 2 shot by a draven that was 1 level beneath me... its ridiculous, an assassin that can burst a squishy target its useless. you just sit there doing nothing because if you try to engage you will just get out bursted and out sustained by the ADC.

ShablagooJul 15, 20171 votes

Its really funny because gragas/ elise can do the same thing with lich bane its like ad assassins are cursed to always be singled out the min they have oneshot potential.