What exactly is the motivation for not playign AD in midlane?

Dope Solo·Nov 18, 2017·2 votes·664 views

With all the range and damage, why hasn't midlane gone completely AD?

18 Comments

MistaFarenheitNov 18, 20174 votes

because midlaners have 2 jobs.

wave clear and the instant deletion of adcs.

i recently watched a vid of a high elo player name shiphthur and his thoughts on Lucian mid are as follows: "people pick lucian mid because they are uncomfortable/bad in that role"

i have to agree with him as every lucian mid player ive come across is a cocky asshole that will run his mouth from start to finish BUT will tilt off the planet and be useless to his team the moment he gets ganked trying to kill you under tower.

same with ezreal. people only take these picks because they know they can be very oppressive and win lane easily if they are allowed to. when you go up against these picks let your jungler know that you will be under tower most of lane phase and your opponent is basically free kills if he swings by at the right time.

Cloud273Nov 18, 20171 votes

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because midlaners have 2 jobs.

wave clear and the instant deletion of adcs.

i recently watched a vid of a high elo player name shiphthur and his thoughts on Lucian mid are as follows: "people pick lucian mid because they are uncomfortable/bad in that role"

i have to agree with him as every lucian mid player ive come across is a cocky asshole that will run his mouth from start to finish BUT will tilt off the planet and be useless to his team the moment he gets ganked trying to kill you under tower.

same with ezreal. people only take these picks because they know they can be very oppressive and win lane easily if they are allowed to. when you go up against these picks let your jungler know that you will be under tower most of lane phase and your opponent is basically free kills if he swings by at the right time.

You obviously have no clue what you're talking about. Ezreal is not a strong pusher, so when playing against him you won't be under your tower most of the game.

MistaFarenheitNov 18, 20173 votes

the idea of ez (or any ad really) mid is to hit YOU, not the wave. you walk up for cs you get smackt the fuck up. try it. go ahead and hard push the wave while hes layin into your ass lvl 1, it doesnt work well.

Dope SoloNov 18, 20171 votes

You're absolutely right.

MrHaZeYoNov 18, 20171 votes

I've played Mid for years, ADs will try to beat you up but you will throw them under turret forcing them to CS over poking you allowing you to poke them. Most Mages also out trade ADCs after level 3 until end of lane phase, assuming they can hit their abilities.

Which is why outside of Corki or niche match ups you don't see ADCs mid as often. Of course a jungler can always sway the match up, but that goes both ways.

ADCs are usually weak early game, they depend on items more then the other classes, which is why they are bot accompanied with a support who all usually have good damage and utility to make up for the ADC lack of damage beginning game. Which is why the better support usually wins bot lane.

MistaFarenheitNov 18, 20171 votes

nvm LOL you are somehow on an 8 game losing streak with ezreal, now ur comment makes sense.

Cloud273Nov 18, 20172 votes

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nvm LOL you are somehow on an 8 game losing streak with ezreal, now ur comment makes sense.

And this has absolutely NOTHING to do with this conversation. Good job getting off topic and using personal insults.

MrHaZeYoNov 18, 20172 votes

I mean do Mages not have Range and Damage?

Also, most the time the Mid laners are AP based so your whole team isn't AD.

Dope SoloNov 18, 20171 votes

That makes some sense, but that never stopped talon, yashole and zed.

MistaFarenheitNov 18, 20171 votes

talon and zed still fill the role of adc deleter

MrHaZeYoNov 18, 20171 votes

They are also different then your typical AD mid laner, they are meant to go mid, so their kits reflect that. Talon also has a massive fall off, Talon is one of the best first blooding champions but has one of the worst win rates. The higher ellos also supplement AP damage and waveclear else where with AD mid laners.

We also have to think about how Supports and Tanks work in upper elos, AD assassins can't get to a priority target most the time and that's why they weren't played as much. Preseason is a bit different but the outcome will more then likely come back to the same.