She's one of the highest pick rate supports and has a great win rate
As well as a good ADC pick rate, with a very high win rate
She was out for a patch and became one of the best champions for 2 roles, and she still does ok at top as well
People keep trying to say how well balanced she is, but you think she wouldn't be borderline pick/ban already if she's so balanced
Nerf the numbers, but leave the kit alone IMO. I've only played her a couple of times but she was quite fun.
I don't think her sup win rate is quite as high as you think? I just checked leagueofgraphs and her support winrate Is 51.6%, her adc winrate Is 54.6%. The adc winrate is a tad high, but less people play her adc apparently. If anything, her numbers could probably get tuned down a bit, but I think Senna is pretty okay currently. But, I also like playing her, so take that with a grain of salt.
before even touching senna they need to address support items first...
She does well because shes constantly genertaing gold thanks to her passive souls giving gold and so is outperforming
I just think she should have her range nerfed on both AA and Q. But other than that shes okay imo.
As long as she doesn't get one of those ridiculous dash/blinks Riot is so fond of excessively handing out to new champions, I'm sort of fine with it.
I think the biggest things that could reasonabley nerf her down are
as much as i hate to say it (because i really like this champ) but if a new champ has a positive winrate like 2 days after the release, you know the champ is super broken.
What's worrying me is her ADC win and pick rate go UP the higher elo you check.
Supportwise she needs small nerfs, but adc wise she needs to be gutted. IDK, make it sure she can't CS I guess. Give her innate penalties for csing sounds like an idea
this is coming from the same idiots at riot that think ekko is balanced. if he was balanced, then why is he the most banned jungler right now? is he even being looked at? the fact that he's supposed to be this squishy assassin, but can literally tank a nuclear blast is ridiculous.
My rudimentary analysis is that Senna needs to either lose some utility or lose some damage. She has too much of both and is viable in too many roles.
I spammed senna for the first 2 weeks of release and racked up about 75k mastery on her. Here are my thoughts on her:
-She is way too safe for a champion that scales infinitely. You should be able to shut her down early to halt her scaling in its tracks, but with the combination of her AoE CC, camoflouging shroud, and ridiculous range, you can't do that.
-Other champions that scale very hard (Vayne, Kog, Twitch) have extremely short range and punishable early games to offer big windows to shut them down. Why doesn't Senna have that too?
-Her Q being able to target literally everything except thin air will need to go. Senna can use Piercing Darkness on fruits in the jungle, on wards, towers, etc, for a free heal that can save her in too many situations. It's also pretty cancer when she snipes you by placing a ward and Q'ing through it when you thought you were out of range. Maybe change it so Senna can only q through ally champions, minions, and maybe towers.
-Her W is pretty much a mini Varus ult. The root is pretty long with a generous hitbox, and for a peel/cc ability it does a damn good bit of damage. The one or two seconds you have before you're cc'ed usually isn't enough unless you're playing Pyke or Yuumi. Perhaps lower the damage, change it so it detonates instantly but only hits one person, like an ahri charm almost. It feels terrible to have your ally get hit by Last Embrace, and then you're dead too because you couldn't get away from them in time. (It's almost like playing against zilean.)
-I really do have a problem with her E. It's a strange ability, but one that will be completely busted in highly coordinated play. What's not to love? You don't know who's coming at you, the 15/0 Kha'Zix or the 2/6 Draven. While this ability does SOUND cool, it's extremely frustrating to play against. Why does it make you unselectable? It's like an AoE Vlad pool that speeds you up instead of slow you down, that also hides your identity.
If Rito don't do something this patch, just wait until Senna is inevitably picked in pro play. She'll see her nerfs soon enough then.
How should they nerf her? She hasn't been out long enough to figure out how to tune her.
Everyone say's she has an 'overloaded kit' but Its not like she has 9 effects on each ability. They are each fairly simple. Only her passive is complicated, and thats because it defines how she plays, like jhin. A few positives, a few negatives. Her E duration could be hit a bit, maybe her passive could be 25 stacks instead of 20?
Riot doesn't care and she just got a skin so Riot EXTRA doesn't care.
