Swain is an unhealthy champion.

qwerty123x·1/17/2018, 8:42:30 PM·2 votes·975 views

Riot, maybe it is time now to start thinking about Swain. A champion that's under the radar from most people's eyes, they won't realise that this champion has a toxic kit and is unhealthy for this game.

Literally cannot lane top against this champion. Pushes you into tower from level 1 with Q or W. While you are farming under tower, he spams Q or E for more damage and since his E amplifies his damage by 20% you take a lot of damage. And when he hits level 6 with a Catalyst, you may as well stand in fountain because you have lost the game.

Grievous Wounds does nothing to combat against his ultimate or Swain in general because GW only reduces his healing not the damage he can do with E + R. Even if you use GW, he will most likely build a Spirit Visage unless he goes full AP. He doesn't face mana issues cos Manaflow Band and Catalyst giving him infinite mana sustain just as long as the enemy champion is attacking him, or he restores health back if he uses his mana, synergises with his ult.

He counters every melee champion in lane and in game. He makes melee champions useless the entire game. You can't kill him 1v1 because he does ridiculous damage as an AP tank. You can't team fight and kill him because all he does is runs into the middle of your team with ult on and Zhonya's, which gives him health back while invulnerable which makes no fucking sense. If you get hit by his E + W + Q, you are fucked. The Q damage at rank 5 with E applied deals 800 (+240%AP), and cos you are stunned, you are pretty much taking the full damage. If you manage to survive all that, there is an item that's called Rylai's Crystal Scepter, while makes his ult and E slow you down also. And if you stack magic resist, he can still buy Liandry's Torment and/or Void Staff to make your MR invalid.

All while he is enjoying a 50%+ winrate in Platinum and above since his release date. One champion should not be able to make all 74 melee champions completely invalid throughout the game.

That is fucking bullshit. What is Riot thinking?

24 Comments

Nik Nikerson1/17/2018, 8:49:14 PM4 votes

First, as someone that greatly enjoys the great Swain Train of Pain, I can assure you that he's not quite as strong as you describe, and has some truly terrible match ups (a couple of which are melee champs by the way).

Second, his rework will be out in like the next month.

SadKill1/17/2018, 8:48:06 PM1 votes

How is he using Q and W at level 1?

Infernape1/17/2018, 8:46:17 PM1 votes

Literally item 3194.

Pushes you into tower from level 1 with Q or W.

Even then, why are you standing in his Q? Walk out of it. If you get hit by his W (which has a delay), you deserve to take his entire kit's damage.

He makes melee champions useless the entire game. You can't kill him 1v1 because he does ridiculous damage as an AP tank.

First of all, he's a battle mage. He's nowhere near a tank. It would be like calling Vladimir a tank. Secondly, a lot of melee champions outdamage Swain early. He doesn't do a lot of damage early unless he lands a full combo. Champions like Riven can easily shit on him because she can outsustain his mana bar, and she has the mobility to dodge literally everything.

If you get hit by his E + W + Q, you are fucked. The Q damage at rank 5 with E applied deals 800 (+240%AP), and cos you are stunned, you are pretty much taking the full damage.

So don't get hit?

Rewt1/17/2018, 8:53:30 PM1 votes

ive actually had 40 second duels with a swain before as a ww main. we just couldnt kill each other. so much fucking healing.

Kai Guy1/17/2018, 8:54:06 PM1 votes

He is up for a visual and gameplay update that's currently being tested internally by riot.

bywords701/17/2018, 9:13:07 PM1 votes

this champion has a 46% win rate top, get good pls. MR items hard counter him, he literally can't kill you before he runs out of mana.

H1 H0w are Ya1/17/2018, 8:53:20 PM1 votes

He is next in line for a rework.

Also, he is supposed to shit on melee matchups the same way Darius Teemo or Kayle do.

I one tricked Swain to Diamond and I can tell you a lot of the Meta Top laners in High elo can shit all over swain such as Jayce and Riven or Yasuo