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Akali no fucking counterplay

qwerty123x·12/30/2017, 7:57:20 PM·44 votes·4,188 views

She can go 0/5 in lane but as soon as she has finished gunblade at anytime during the game, you may as well ff or go afk in base because you have lost the game. Hell she can finish her gunblade at 25mins and still carry. Every match is the same with an Akali. The only way to beat an enemy Akali is to end the game before she gets gunblade or it's gg.

There is no skill required to play this ridiculous champion, the only skill you need is to have good timing to go in, that is all. A blind person can play this champion and carry easy.

She has a ridiculous passive combined with Gunblade and Lich Bane, constant Q spam, a W that lasts for 8 SECONDS and her ultimate which is just annoying. My problem is her W, you can't use pinks anymore and all she does is hides inside it for 8 seconds waiting for her extremely short cooldowns to come back. You try and gank her, she pops W and ults away. In teamfights, pop W wait for someone and ult and Q repeatedly.

And what does Riot our lords and saviors do, they buff her every patch because these people are idiots that smoke too much.

What I want to see to balance her:

Akali's passive cooldown starts after the second portion, not the first.
Make Q a skill shot so she has to actually have skill to be able to get the Q on enemy champion for the extra damage.
Make W scale from 4/5/6/7/8 seconds depending on rank, so she doesn't have too much safety. Remove the slow from the shroud.

80 Comments

hoganftw12/30/2017, 8:04:21 PM35 votes

Why does she need all that lane sustain for? Riot pls.

Hashihime12/30/2017, 8:58:09 PM14 votes

Im so thankful that people like you aren't responsible for balancing.

Shablagoo12/31/2017, 12:25:06 AM11 votes

Honestly what makes her broken is her sustain, like i've said this before in another post but I dont understand why riot thought an assassin should have sustain. This isnt a healthy kit especially considering everything she has is point click.

AirKingNeo12/30/2017, 8:37:04 PM6 votes

Old Akali: You need to use Q on the minions to sustain. W could be negated but you could proc Q and walk back in.

Akali now: You can spam toss Q on your opponent while sustaining on the lane thanks to your passive. W can't be negated and you can proc Q and/or passive and walk back in.

Woodakoodashooda12/30/2017, 10:14:05 PM4 votes

Play her.

If you think she's that easy.

If you think you can win EVERY match off one champ with one item.

If you think she's so godly that she can 1v5 with just boots and gunblade.

Then play her.

She works mid, she works top, and she kinda sorta works jungle.

So, you don't have to main mid to start maining her.

So, go ahead.

Do it.

Play her.

Then, when you've won 15 games in a row, minimum, with her, come back with the evidence to your claim.

I'll be waiting.

anmyauntieonpo12/31/2017, 12:48:49 AM4 votes

let me guess...ur low elo and got your ass buttered by a better player playing akali

Martyrofsand12/30/2017, 9:06:12 PM3 votes

No the only thing they really need to do to Akali, and Vayne and Kha and all champs that have hard stealth, is give us some way of seeing them in their steal. Not the stupid sweeper red image you can't target and they still remain stealthed during but something that actually breaks them out of stealth and allows your team to see them. Right now the only thing that really does that in the game, that I am aware of, is Morgana's ultimate. Riot decided they didn't want people to counter their stealths but in doing so they left literally zero counter play to their stealth and the impacts have been nothing but toxic.

TotalJerk12/30/2017, 10:25:03 PM3 votes

Akali's whole design is getting a fuckton of easy kills and still somehow managing to be useless.

Punkkee12/30/2017, 9:27:30 PM3 votes

the only reason why i stopped playing akali is because her teamfight is garbage. if the enemy groups even a little akali gets blown up easily. especially in our meta of high damagers everywhere akali can't survive if she doesnt get ahead

VoraciousX12/31/2017, 4:31:24 AM2 votes

Honestly what annoys the hell out of me is that she can literally zone you from CS until she gets her gunblade. That and unless you can stall out her gunblade 20 minutes into the game, you're gonna suffer. Heck I played Morgana top vs one earlier today. Killed her probably like 5-6 times in lane, and pushed down turrets, etc(Honestly I thought the Akali was mid because of the champions picked when I was picking, but I turned out to be wrong so we switched because I would have had a better chance vs Akali). By the 25 minute mark she completed gunblade, and I had 75% health, and E on me, and she one shot me. I was like "I made her nearly useless all game...wtf...". I won that game but I still don't understand how a Morgana with like 3-4 items and at least 2 levels up vs an Akali with like 1 and a half items got basically one shot by her. I was fed af btw.

Tychusfindlay91812/31/2017, 6:17:06 AM2 votes

She struggles against juggernauts.

ahferroin712/31/2017, 9:57:51 PM2 votes

She has very little effective counterplay once fed, but that describes most assassin's to some degree (though Akali is worse ATM than most in this respect). Prior to her being fed, tanks can deal with her pretty effectively.

The trick is to prevent her from getting fed. As long as she's not an item or more ahead of you, and your team actually works together, she's not hugely hard to deal with by simply grouping her (she has essentially zero AoE damage) and laying in some solid CC.

Alternatively, a good Vayne (ult to disrupt her rotation by going invis so she can't AA you, and condemn her to a wall), Annie (multiple AoE stuns and damage reflect, just proc your passive, drop a bear on her head, and go to town), or Malzahar (insane DPS and suppress, plus his passive, the standard mid-to-late game rotation on him E-W-R will usually nuke her, and that whole time she can't do anything to you) will seriously ruin her day, again provided she's not significantly fed.

Colton14712/30/2017, 10:15:35 PM2 votes

I played MissFortune against Akali before.

Bullied her out of lane.

Harden Stepback12/31/2017, 12:15:40 AM2 votes

If she gets fed pre 6 then it is a guaranteed loss

invisiblecat112/30/2017, 8:17:07 PM2 votes

Making her Q a skillshot will solve every issue she has I was thinking of something like a Zoe Q, but no scaling damage with distance traveled The first shot out will be short range, and the mark will sit there for a second, and then the next will launch it at a large range from the mark, making it hard to dodge but more fair than point and click

Master Asuryan12/31/2017, 12:34:42 AM2 votes

Counterplay is not for anyone. Riot like to make some categories of champs easy to play around and some other not. Fiora, Vayne or Akali are blessed in that way even if they are not so good in TF, they are cancer to face at equal stuff.

GFREEMEN1/28/2020, 4:57:37 PM1 votes

Gunblade is really the problem.

But if Riot removed it they will just give the damage and healing into the Kit of those that use it defeating the whole issue of Gunblade.

Oxyrotten12/31/2017, 12:25:48 AM1 votes

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She can go 0/5 in lane but as soon as she has finished gunblade at anytime during the game, you may as well ff or go afk in base because you have lost the game. Hell she can finish her gunblade at 25mins and still carry. Every match is the same with an Akali. The only way to beat an enemy Akali is to end the game before she gets gunblade or it's gg.

There is no skill required to play this ridiculous champion, the only skill you need is to have good timing to go in, that is all. A blind person can play this champion and carry easy.

She has a ridiculous passive combined with Gunblade and Lich Bane, constant Q spam, a W that lasts for 8 SECONDS and her ultimate which is just annoying. My problem is her W, you can't use pinks anymore and all she does is hides inside it for 8 seconds waiting for her extremely short cooldowns to come back. You try and gank her, she pops W and ults away. In teamfights, pop W wait for someone and ult and Q repeatedly.

And what does Riot our lords and saviors do, they buff her every patch because these people are idiots that smoke too much.

What I want to see to balance her:

Akali's passive cooldown starts after the second portion, not the first.

Make Q a skill shot so she has to actually have skill to be able to get the Q on enemy champion for the extra damage.

Make W scale from 4/5/6/7/8 seconds depending on rank, so she doesn't have too much safety. Remove the slow from the shroud.

Your assessment is extremely poor. She is an burst assassin that is very item dependent. She ISN'T SUPPOSED to carry until she completes items. And after she does why shouldn't she have carry potential? That's literally part of her design.

What your complaining about is the countless snowball mechanics and assassin meta that riot has implemented to shorten game times. That is an issue with game balance NOT champion balance.

I will say her w needs a longer cd. Or some other mechanic to punish her for misusing or abusing her w.

deepfriedchicken12/31/2017, 4:38:26 PM1 votes

well i thinks taht teemo is a fair an' balancd champon with alot of countr play

ShiniXII12/31/2017, 8:16:13 PM1 votes

guys, i talked to support, they confirmed the old chancellor of germany, Adolf H. was hired and now works at riot games balance team. that's why this is happening.