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it be lìke that··50 votes·4,652 views

Singed top 0-3 at 6 minutes. Junglers fault CLEARLY

**edit a lot of you are saying singed should be doing this, i would like to add all 3 deaths were solo kills by sion top laner. i believe.

bottom shoved and not warded vs a shaco, queue the "shaco ganks but you dont, trash jungler" and they are all toxic af. I literally do not know what people expect, im a silver just like you, I cannot win every fucking lane for you.

Ranked has been nothing but awful, every step of the way.

"oh you are farming? Shit jungler fucking gank"

I need a good breakdown guide of what to do in x situation. Because im fairly lost when it gets to this point, bot getting wrecked, top getting wrecked, both wont listen and ward or back up, they just want to yell at me and say its my fault, mid just yelling at everyone else but he was on an 8 game losing streak so i kinda get it.

My fav part is, i was going to queue my main Zac but naturally support wanted to play brand and top was adamant about playing singed. so i literally swapped my main for hecarim for these people.

91 Comments

Genuwhine3643 votes

like the yung p.o.b says "jungling in solo que is like trying to stop a sinking ship with three holes while you only have one plug. "

it be lìke that6 votes

idm losing, i accept it happens, but these types of games mess me up.

I get hesitant and dont pull the trigger as quick as i ordinarily would.

PiVoRx2 votes

Wow, this should be added to "tip of the game" in loading screen.

Marshbouy22 votes

Singed top 0-3

seems normal to me tbh.

DeathBurst6 votes

Singed top 0-3 is totally a normal score for a Singed, yes. What is NOT normal is if the Singed player actually blames his jungler. A true Singed actually doesn't want his jungler anywhere near top lane.

Spicy Rice3 votes

A true singed player knows that he needs to feed and keep the enemy jungler top while his jungler snowballs mid and bot

DeathBurst1 votes

Exactly :D All the while having top CS in the game.

Marshbouy1 votes

That is very true. I ignored the facts of the situation to go for the joke... I laugh and laugh when the enemies chase me around in circles top lane.

DeathBurst1 votes

Singed is the funniest champ ever. When I'm tilted after a troll team, I usually go play Singed in Normals and run in circles too, and it relaxes me. :D

Marshbouy1 votes

same. +100 points if you get the enemy to afk

BoeBu5 votes

My main role is Jungle so i know what you are talking about.People treat me like shit because they cannot win their lane or at least play safe.

I really hate when people treat me like that,but i just mute them.I do not want to waste my time on them and i just want to focus on the game.

Here is what your teammates expect from you:

1 - Camp their lane 2 - expect you to gank immediately after you get level 2. (so they spam assistance ping immediately after minions spawn) 3 - They want you to ward their bush,even when they have 2 ward charges. 4 - They are gonna blame you because they died to a gank. 5 - They want you to carry a game,even when they fed an enemy champion. 6 -They expect from you to give them the blue/red buff every time it spawns. 7 -They think they are invulnerable to ganks just because their bush is warded. 8 -They think it is all jungler/supports fault,not theirs. 9 - They expect to be toxic and not be punished. 10 -They want you to be at multiple places at the same time.

These are some things i have experienced while i played this "fun" game.If these players expect to climb somewhere,then they need to wake up,stop being toxic and actually try to win.They always expect from their teammates to carry a game.

So the only way to solve this problem is :

Dynamic Queue

I am trying to get to Gold this season.I am currently Silver 2 and im stuck in this division. I would be in gold already if i abused DQ.

It is hard to climb the ladder when players like Singed 0/3 are still playing,especially solo.If it is possible for you to abuse DQ,do it. Who cares about players who call you boosted just because you play with friends.

If you play Dynamic Queue and do decent,then it is not boosting.Boosting is when you win games with your friends but you do really bad.

P.S : If you prefer to climb Solo Queue,then do it.But always expect "those" players.Remember,/mute a toxic player,try your best and eventually,you will get to your desired elo. Good luck !

Spicy Rice2 votes

As someone who plays pretty much every role, but primarily mid and top, I have a few expectations of the jungler.

Either he

A. Snowballs someone useful (anyone who can carry, and not the ap Shaco top) B. Gets every single objective C. Farms well enough to carry.

My problem arises when the jungler does none of these things. They ignore the carries, they don't get any objectives, and they waste time hanging a useless lane instead of farming.

BoeBu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Spicy Rice,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GktjxcRb,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2016-08-30T20:55:45.056+0000)

As someone who plays pretty much every role, but primarily mid and top, I have a few expectations of the jungler.

Either he

A. Snowballs someone useful (anyone who can carry, and not the ap Shaco top) B. Gets every single objective C. Farms well enough to carry.

My problem arises when the jungler does none of these things. They ignore the carries, they don't get any objectives, and they waste time hanging a useless lane instead of farming.

I main jungle so i know what i need to do.

I ALWAYS focus objectives,buy vision ward to ward because my teammates doesn't know how to ward.I am always trying my best to help my team.

But every time i start a game,this happens:

I got a leash i am level 2. Mid gives first blood and pings assistance... then goes AFK.

or...

While i am farming jg,top pings assistance.I go there and gank.Then mid pings assistance,also bot pings assistance at the same time.I try to help them but i cannot be at multiple places at the same time.

Later our top dies and pings assistance.At this time,everyone pings assistance and then start to flame me.

They start to type toxic things to me,flame me because they are losing lane.

Even with all the flame,i still try to help,because it is ranked and i want to win.

Then this happens....

"Rengar wtf your farm lol you suck you don't know how to farm" i am like -_____- they spam assistance ping every 3 minutes and i help them,but they still flame me?

I am so done with this game.

My goal is to get to Gold,then i will never play ranked ever again.I don't want these players in my team.They deserve bronze 5 and they should stay forever there.

I'm tired of these braindead players.

P.S: I know how you feel.I wish we could play together but we cannot because we are from different servers.I wish you good luck in Ranked and report those players.

AhmCha5 votes

From someone who sympathizes with the jungle struggle, here's what you can do.

Step 1. /mute all Step 2. Go about your business.

statelesskiller5 votes

0-3 singed? isnt that what you want to be? and then proceed to proxy

agbudar5 votes

lol it was like that last game.

Ashe FFING USELESS JUNGLER!!! (me) Sejuani proceeds to hard carry the game most damage done and damage taken ending score kda 13/1/15 Ashe ~im no longer tilting thanks for the carry.

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/115/229/127.jpg that feel when you carry so hard even the tilter admits defeat

Romtheguy1 votes

Satisfaction!summoner 1

Papa Slothy4 votes

I play my lane like the jungle position doesn't exist, it helps to keep me from going for huge risks. It also makes ganks sortof feel like a nice bonus

GULAG 4 U3 votes

Irelia, 0/3, 20 cs at 10 minutes. Blames me the master Yi jungle.

it be lìke that2 votes

my life. every game.

I actually wont gank pre 6 on yi, unless its a guaranteed kill. I tell my team this too, wasting time on yi is just so dumb when you can just rush down 6 and start snowballing.

GULAG 4 U2 votes

Same. Idiots feeding 0/4 trash laners I've wrecked too. I had this 0/4 brand go 16 something and get a triple every 3 minutes after 20.

Vegas Dad1 votes

Right I know and I am sure you never said omg none come help when they invade my jungle now I am 0/4/0 and can't even go in my own jungle. So many terrible players pick jungle so you don't have to actually play against people it's funny. Not my job to win your lane in fact jungle has no job but kill minion by yourself right? Oh and secure objectives aka kill a dragon 1-2 times a game but wait you cry and scream for landers to help you do that because your the only person in the game who has no responsibility to help the team lol.

GULAG 4 U2 votes

Eh no, I ward my jungle and I'M the one who fucking kills the enemy jungler. Don't get sht wrong broooo

DeathBurst3 votes

I'm a sh*t jungler myself, and I mean, for real, it's not what flamers told me, so sorry OP, can't really help you about that. Best I can say is just ignore flamers and do your best ;/

But this, right here:

My fav part is, i was going to queue my main Zac but naturally support wanted to play brand and top was adamant about playing singed. so i literally swapped my main for hecarim for these people.

Bad idea, very very bad idea. Play your main, especially in Silver, it's far better to just know your champ ins and outs than to try to have a good team comp. Good team comps are important if there is actually some team work, but that's not the case in Silver, especially in the situation you describe where everyone is blaming everyone.

Limrick3 votes

Even better when you play a scaling jungler that needs to farm, like Jax Kayle KogMaw MasterYi and it's apparently your fault because you didn't gank. Bonus points if they're pushed up with no wards.

jaymc11303 votes

Normally I would mention that your top laner being that bad off that quickly IS the fault of the jungler, since the jungler failed to recognize where he needed to be when and what that matchup was going to be like and how to combat any problems presented by it early...

But the top laner is singed.

Singed players, know this: You bring NOTHING to the table in ganks. Singed as a champion brings very little to the grand scheme of things. The single LEAST likely laner a jungler can assist early in the game happens to be... Singed.

I've been diamond for 4 seasons now, I was briefly master tier in season 4, I can say this with the required experience to back it up: Singed, junglers cannot gank for your lane. Ever. Really. They can't. Its an ineffective and inefficient use of the junglers time with very low odds of success. If you pick Singed to play, you essentially are saying this: "I am playing my own game this match guys, me by myself, you 4 as a group, and the enemy team. I'm just gonna cause as much trouble as I can by being a nuisance and applying pressure with proxying that I keep the enemy team disorganized and you guys will have to make use of that disorganization because thats literally all I bring to the table as a champ."

dominusx2 votes

i've been on this show so many times i'm in the hall of fame ahah

RogueWill2 votes

There is really just one thing to do. Get item 3711 + item 2043 and invade the enemy jungler. Hopefully the pressure will make him stay on his jungle more or/and force his laner to rotate towards their own jungle to help.

it be lìke that8 votes

expecting any champ to keep up with shacos early game is just silly though, play safe, let me farm up, and shaco will be my chew toy.

dont overextend into unwarded areas feed him 5 kills, and say its my fault. it blows my mind.

Eedat4 votes

Invading the enemy jungle when your lanes are losing and are always pushed in is suicide lol

DeathBurst1 votes

Well, it's still better than when your lanes are losing and are NOT pushed. At least the enemy team can't collapse on you without losing farm.

Jump3 votes

The problem is when the enemy jungler hasn't had a successful gank in 16 minutes while you're 1-0-4 and your mid lane loses his shit and starts feeding after going 0/2 in a 1v1 while having blue buff priority over his opponent.

Earl Eulrich1 votes

been there...done that...too many times...thinking about becoming a mid main to ensure it doesn´t happen again - but wouldn´t that just mean that my jungler suddenly deceides to have 0 impact on the game at all? either way you do it...lol just seriously sucks if you aren´t premade 3+

Only Play Darius2 votes

It's simple. Don't play jungle anymore. Or play junglers that don't need to gank MasterYi Shyvana Udyr

crippler382 votes

here are a few ways to deal with shaco in the early game. However they require teammwork so your results may vary, first off.

Ward your own jungle camps and bushes, especially early game since shaco tends to rush down your red buff or blue buff depending on who you are so he has 3 buffs to control, second know that shaco is going to gank earlier than you are no matter who you are because he instant clears one buff camp so play a little bit more passively, third if you ward inside of his jungle and your jungle whenever he tries to do a buff camp an invade will set him very far behind.

Basically the counter to shaco early game is team play and map awareness, also never shove lanes early game unless you're someone who can survive a surprise shaco to the back.

One more thing, if people are getting ganked by shaco constantly tell them to either ward farther back (same places you would ward for zac, the far away corners over the walls that he can jump over) and to ping him when you first see him that way you can tell who he is through the ultimate.

Actual final note, rush down his buff and proc his boxes about 20 seconds before the camp spawns, doesn't matter who does it, this will ruin his clear. Doesn't matter if you have to burn flash just do it and you'll make him a very sad clown.

freeloader252 votes

If you want to main jungle you better mute all players from minute 1 on and mute pings aswell. pingspamming is so incredible annoying, don't expect anyone to not blame you when they die because they are pushing 24/7 without wards or summoners. only thing you can do there is to stick around a lane when you think the enemy jungler might come so you can countergank (ofc only if you can win the 2v2/3v3 situation) and if you want to recall: doing it close to a "danger of enemy gank" lane helps quite a lot since the chance for the enemy jungler to show up in these seconds isn't that low.

in general: -gank winning lanes, mostly ignore loosing lanes (harsh but it's the best way to win in soloq)

-never ever gank a loosing lane when there is a chance you'll get counterganked, even if the laner pingspams like there's no tomorrow and blames you all day long

-when all lanes are loosing: only go for safe ganks and farm as much as possible (farming is always good when you feel like you can carry teamfights)

-don't gank because a laner tells you to

-only pick champs you feel good with and try to main as few as possible (a good comp isn't good anymore when the enemies snowball out of control)

tldr: ganking loosing lanes most of the times is worse than not ganking at all

Hrkk Ptoo2 votes

Ive learned to take it on the chin and just keep playing. I've had games where people complain and need a gank. The gank goes awry and they complain more and tell not to gank them again. As a jungler you have the most control over which lane and fights you want to win. When every single lane is losing you just have to hope you can make it to late game and your team fights are better. Do your best to stop strong early game champs from snowballing. Play and don't get desperate for kills. If you can't make a gank counter jungle and ward as much as possible. The enemy team will start to become very confident in their ability to team fight but if your team is still motivated to win you should be able to turn it around. I win about 75% of my games from comebacks in ranked. Never take a laners opinion personally their just upset they are losing lane and need a way to vent. I know everyone thinks the toxic players are toxic because they are just toxic people, but most of the time they're just frustrated at themselves. I try to take a leadership role in all my ranked games to help motivate my team to doing better or looking for little goals to make it through a rough game. All of these things have helped me climb through silver, and its important to remember some games are just out of your hands to win.

Nymzo2 votes

I don't think this is even possible to play singed without at least 5 deaths. Literally the champion just scream: ''I'm 0/12/0, I'm give even less gold than a minion but chase after me while my team takes objectives and I get gold from farm.''

TeCoolMage1 votes

All roles get equally, two out of five just have mains that complain the most :P

Sylvant1 votes

The worst thing is, fed lanes are very hard to gank and chances to fail are highly likely. From a jungler perspective, it is much more appealing to bid on a winning lane and gank for a certain gain, instead of wasting effort on an already lost lane and instead of 1 team member behind, you become two and in the meantime you ganking that lane, the enemy is having easy time taking better objectives.

AninLegions7771 votes

Singed's score is fine. Was 0/3 yday, ended 6/4 and took 4 turrets. Anyways on to the topic here. I hate flaming teammates. Frankly once one teammate flames, I mute all. What I would advice is this. If they push not too far ( like the wall just before the river), you can gank easily. You don't need to get the kill. Just force the enemy to use summs or go b. Only do this if you won't get turret aggro. After the gank, go back and farm. You'll calm down your teammates a bit and they'll be more productive.

JerulEon1 votes

Why was singed even laning? All the singed players just proxy now and it's annoying to play against lol

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

I was expecting another rant post, and was surprised to find requests for advice. Generally it's better to play someone your comfortable with, than to play someone that combos or counters. In that game your mid laner is probably the one you want to play around; though down on his luck his attitude might change to positive if given a clear advantage, and the other 3 sound like they're already over the edge of no return in terms of mentality. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P1BQry2iXY

Melledoneus1 votes

I agree that a lot of people are ridiculous and overexaggerate about "oh, my jungler sucks because I f*cked up in lane."

But then you have people like that Xin Zhao who farmed lanes and jungle all game, while the enemy Amumu basically spent all of his time ganking and snowballing his team. I even told him "dude, you're a stronger early ganker than Amumu. Where are you?"

It fascinates me how both sides of the spectrum can happen so often. Stop blaming each other or you'll be sub-Bronze forever.

TheMinez1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Bish im saucin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GktjxcRb,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-08-29T23:07:05.078+0000)

Singed top 0-3 at 6 minutes.

I play Singed. He was either doing his job well and attracting the enemy jungler (If those deaths were from proxy farming) or was playing vs a Heimi/Karma top.

it be lìke that2 votes

he was getting buttfucked 1v1 vs sion

TheMinez2 votes

That is a skill matchup, it just happens to be slightly in the Singed's favor early meaning that your singed was unskilled.

DREADN0UGHT1 votes

Mid dies 4 times while trying to 1v1? ''Shit jungle gank pls wtf''

cinomenapplebae1 votes

wait that was a ranked match lol

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