Jungle pro (diamond 4) giving noobs advice

GamblerOfLives··2 votes·598 views

Ask me anything here about the jungle role;)..i will help everybody

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Rain Smurff2 votes

You are a diamond in EUNE...lmfao Easy there

GamblerOfLives1 votes

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You are a diamond in EUNE...lmfao Easy there

What????? says who??

weeaboomer1 votes

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What????? says who??

everyone.

GamblerOfLives1 votes

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everyone.

:))

Has any of you actually played on Eune??? Or you guys just talk:)))

Lauchmelder1 votes

I heard EUNE bronze 5 > NA challenger

Keep that BS out of here.

Baby Ghoul1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Stop Feeding Mid,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Gfkr7Hwp,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-04-04T10:59:01.630+0000)

You are a diamond in EUNE...lmfao Easy there

LOL!

You guys are too much.

Rain Smurff1 votes

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LOL!

You guys are too much.

NA is pretty heavy. Sry bud.

zecastar2 votes

Even if the system wasn't BS and the queue configurations were always matched appropriately, you never know what that ranking means. It could be a solo player or 5 man and anything in between. With the removal of solo queue, Riot has made this "competitive" game impossible to be taken seriously by non-professionals.

GamblerOfLives1 votes

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Even if the system wasn't BS and the queue configurations were always matched appropriately, you never know what that ranking means. It could be a solo player or 5 man and anything in between. With the removal of solo queue, Riot has made this "competitive" game impossible to be taken seriously by non-professionals.

I agree that the ranking isn;t exact for the individual player;)

TomeeFIN1 votes

If say we have a Riven in top who fed the enemy Darius. Should i go help her even tho its a sure doublekill for Darius?

Sorry for bad englandorino...

GamblerOfLives1 votes

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If say we have a Riven in top who fed the enemy Darius. Should i go help her even tho its a sure doublekill for Darius?

Sorry for bad englandorino...

:|

Ofc not..gank only if you get kills out of it

Borkahn1 votes

Nope. Even as a gold I realize that ganks provide much more then just the chance for a kill. It applies pressure to get them to back off if necessary. I've done this plenty of times and has been the difference between a bot lane feeding and us winning outright. Try again

GamblerOfLives1 votes

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Nope. Even as a gold I realize that ganks provide much more then just the chance for a kill. It applies pressure to get them to back off if necessary. I've done this plenty of times and has been the difference between a bot lane feeding and us winning outright. Try again

:|.. you said that if you gank that lane you will give a double kill to darius--> this is exactly what you said. which the answer is obvious - don;t gank that lane.

Second, if you are talking about pressure to keep that darius at bay.. Again, you are wrong. If the darius can 1 vs 2, that lane is lost. the riven should know that and more importantly you should know that. Wasting time TOP it's never a good ideea. The best you can do is try to farm up and apply pressure elsewhere. This depends on more things-champions etc.

But, what do i know, i am diamond on eune= bronze on na;)..

GamblerOfLives1 votes

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Nope. Even as a gold I realize that ganks provide much more then just the chance for a kill. It applies pressure to get them to back off if necessary. I've done this plenty of times and has been the difference between a bot lane feeding and us winning outright. Try again

Also, keep in mind that showing on the map as a jungler- it's usually a bad ideea.. a good jungler will take advantage of this.. If you show up top just to hold rivens hand, assume that all of your bot side jungler is gone. You think that kind of pressure will go withouht an answer? The most important thing for a jungler is XP..XP is fcking life for you..give this up and you just lost your jungle.

But wtf do i know, i am just a diamond scrub on EUNE and you are gold on NA:)..

MAYBE YOU SHOULD TRY AGAIN;)

Sasogwa1 votes

challenger isn't even pro so.. (no offense meant)

GamblerOfLives1 votes

Guys, if you want to learn jungle, ask me here anything you want;)...i promise you will learn alot from me;)..i am pro jungler

ArlanKels1 votes

Aside from Warwick what other champions almost never drop below 75% HP during their initial clear?

GamblerOfLives1 votes

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Aside from Warwick what other champions almost never drop below 75% HP during their initial clear?

Alot of junglers, if you do the camps well, you should be full hp even with champs with no sustain. But, i'm guessing you are asking about sustain junglers.. Well, Elise and Rek'sai comes to mind..safe clear, really strong in the meta and even if they fall behind they provide utility.. Other junglers that have no sustain but can kite really well are kindred ( this guy has sustain but hard to play to be honest), graves and quinn

OogieBoogs1 votes

Hey bud, I'm generally a jungle main myself as well, but had my fair share of rank struggles. This account was stuck in silver for years, until i made a smurf and quickly rose up to plat 2. (RIP, soft elo resets). So, my question is pretty general. Could you give me an overview of which jungles would make sense for what team comps? Specific champions that may trigger using a specific jungle perhaps? Also, when do i know when to start red or blue? Generally I start where my bot lane is, but obviously it depends on the champion alot of the time.

I agree with the gank mentality by the way, until we are going to secure a kill, ideally i don't go in. Showing that presence gives plenty of time for their jungle to counter that and either counter jungle or meet you in that lane, with likely better positioning.

GamblerOfLives1 votes

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Hey bud, I'm generally a jungle main myself as well, but had my fair share of rank struggles. This account was stuck in silver for years, until i made a smurf and quickly rose up to plat 2. (RIP, soft elo resets). So, my question is pretty general. Could you give me an overview of which jungles would make sense for what team comps? Specific champions that may trigger using a specific jungle perhaps? Also, when do i know when to start red or blue? Generally I start where my bot lane is, but obviously it depends on the champion alot of the time.

I agree with the gank mentality by the way, until we are going to secure a kill, ideally i don't go in. Showing that presence gives plenty of time for their jungle to counter that and either counter jungle or meet you in that lane, with likely better positioning.

Picking champions, jungle champs to fill a certain role in a team comp..not a bad ideea..I don't usually do it...sometimes it's needed.. Your team lacks ap (you pick ap jungler), you lack dmg (you pick high dmg junglers), you want to combo (your team has yasuo and you want to give him knockups (you pick champs that can do that) etc.

However, the jungle has it's own lane..it's best to try to pick a jungler that counters the enemy jungler. For example, Kha'zix counters Master y- he destroys him in the jungle.. elise, is very good vs hard CC and immobile champs etc. If, you know this match-ups, you can pick accordingly and counter the enemy jungler;)..in case you run into him. you should be able to 1 vs 1 him.

The mentality is this.. When you do stuff on the map, expectt pressure from the enemy jungler as a response to your actions. If you are top for example, and he is bot..expctt everything to be gone..even dragon if he can solo it;)..You trade stuff for other stuff..this is how you should think about it;) Depending on your decisions you will either win or lose the game base out of that. Believe it or not junglers influence the game indirectly. Laners will play accordingly to the enemy jungler positioning on the map;)

I know it seems alot to understand but keep this in mind. Just play smart;) and you are fine as jungler

To be honest, it depends..i usually start bot side- better leash. I recomend you do the same;)..start bot side and take either talisman or machete- depending on your champion..if you spam alot of abilities take talisman;) The only reason why i would start top side, is, if my bot wants to do a camp. I know sometimes it sucks, but this is the game..if they don't do a camp they might lose the lane-bcs the other side did it. Basicly play like a little bit.ch in higher elo:))).

Also, i am doing my bot side (where red is) jungler a little different.

I get a decent leash at golems (smite them) do chickens and after that i do red (smite it).. I love this clear- i have enough HP to gank at level 3 and the best part is this.. I can't get invaded..I used to get invaded every single game....to be honest, sometimes it's not even worth invading..but, still, some of them (shaco, kha'zix, lee sin mains) trying to cheese me every single game bcs i was playing a weak jungler early (vi vs lee sin) and a ward at red after i do golems, helps me everytime:).Because i know the match-ups i know what to expect from them;)))

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