Anivia RE combo is getting old.

MunchCrunchLunch··21 votes·2,875 views

item 3070 item 3010 and get chunked for 600 hp is ridiculous in lane

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Schàdenfreude16 votes

ER*

Only Play Darius1 votes

Doesn't the target need to be slowed by the R to get the amplified damage from the E?

Schàdenfreude7 votes

Yes, but since E has a travel time and R is instant cast doing ER saves you time and is faster.

Treeofwar14 votes

eh not as bad as the whole get cait trapped and wam 1.2k hp gone

MunchCrunchLunch3 votes

you mean your whole hp bar. i just died to a cait with half an item full hp as twitch. one shot. adcs are supposed to be late game kappa.

Melledoneus3 votes

Bro, you're twitch. Have your tank eat that. Also, quick tip: traps fon't snare you if Caitlyn isn't near the trap.

Urf Mode Is Life1 votes

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Bro, you're twitch. Have your tank eat that. Also, quick tip: traps fon't snare you if Caitlyn isn't near the trap.

traps ALWAYS snare you regardless of if cait is alive dead or even close... you must be new to league

Melledoneus1 votes

For some reason when I play against her recently traps don't snare me when there's nobody near. It's strange, must be a bug since it doesn't show up in the wiki.

Urf Mode Is Life1 votes

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For some reason when I play against her recently traps don't snare me when there's nobody near. It's strange, must be a bug since it doesn't show up in the wiki.

thats odd honestly... must be a bug... her traps snare you and they grant vision of you to the enemy team

Melledoneus1 votes

Vision, yeah. But they didn't snare me for some odd reason...

SeductiveGrandpa7 votes

Gnar Q+AA+AA+Proc'd passive W combo is getting old Annie R+Q+W combo is getting old Aatrox E+Q combo is getting old Ashe W+Q combo is getting old Brand E+Q+W combo is getting old Evelynn R+E+Q+Q+Q+Q+Q+Q+Q+Q+Q+Q+Q+(SOMETIMES W)+Q combo is getting old Alistar W+Q combo is getting old Jhin AA+W combo is getting old Zilean Q+W+Q combo is getting old Velkoz Q+W+E combo is getting old Sona R+Q combo is getting old Taliyah E+W+Q combo is getting old Leona (Insert sassy combo i forgot) combo is getting old Katarina Q+E+W+R combo is getting old Fiora Q+AA+E+AA+E+AA combo is getting old Ahri E+Q+W combo is getting old Riven Q+AA+Q+AA+W+E+AA+Q+R+AA+Q+E+W+AA+AA+E+W+Q+R+AA+E+W+Q+Q+Q+AA+AA+AA Boxbox combo is getting old

Meep Man1 votes

I'm pretty sure you use Evelynn R first?

Also Leona R+W+E+Q

Urf Mode Is Life1 votes

that awkward moment when you put aatrox in your list when he is irrelivant

SeductiveGrandpa1 votes

That awkward moment when you just wont let Aatrox have his one moment to finally be used in a boards post.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

just a question have you tried MR ? or HP ?

Marshbouy3 votes

has the anivia tried item 3135 item 3151 ?

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

according to the OP statement Anivia has item 3070 item 3010

Marshbouy2 votes

Ok. Well if all the anivia has is tear and catalyst then it's probably only 10 minutes into the game. Do you just build pure MR and health from that point on because the enemy champions R E combo is too powerful? Sure the counterplay is there but her burst is far too powerful for how easy it is to land.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo3 votes

she is a late game scaling champ that has to farm up if you are caught by her slow moving aoe damage with her slow ms and high mana cost /cooldowns then you need to be killed by her.

Marshbouy5 votes

Hey. a tear and a catalyst ISN'T LATE GAME

BTW. Her instant AOE slow and point and click E. She's also got a wall that may or may not be at a long range and is very effective at trapping people

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

learn how to counter... learn how to dodge, learn how to take advantage of a champ when they are weak.

Marshbouy5 votes

Learn how to dodge and instant cast ability and a point and click E (if you are melee) Learn how to dodge an instant cast terrain, an instant cast R, and point and click E. Learn how to take advantage of a champion before they get level 6 and start hitting you for 400 with two abilities.

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Astôlfo9 votes

Please teach me how to dodge a point-and-click targeted ability in early game? Without being one of the few champions with invulnerabilities/untargetabilities on a basic ability?

Melledoneus1 votes

Fizz Pick this guy.

Then watch as you slowly earn your way to Hell.

Astôlfo1 votes

"Without being one of the few champions with invulnerabilities/untargetabilities on a basic ability?"

Melledoneus1 votes

It's not an invulnerability.

It's 'mechanics.'

IMT Fish1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GX8hfUAE,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-18T22:31:42.931+0000)

learn how to counter... learn how to dodge, learn how to take advantage of a champ when they are weak.

Guess you've never played against anivia before.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

your right i have ever played vs that champ before. she never existed before and just now in the last two weeks have become the most op mid lane mage ever

IMT Fish1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GX8hfUAE,comment-id=000200000000000000000000000000040000,timestamp=2016-09-19T03:14:42.440+0000)

your right i have ever played vs that champ before. she never existed before and just now in the last two weeks have become the most op mid lane mage ever

Let me rephrase dat. Guess you've never laned against Anivia before. Sorry for the misunderstanding. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

[{quoted}](name=IMT Fish,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GX8hfUAE,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000000400000000,timestamp=2016-09-19T21:44:38.576+0000)

Let me rephrase dat. Guess you've never laned against Anivia before. Sorry for the misunderstanding. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

yep got me again... i mean its not like i never seen that champ before

IMT Fish1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GX8hfUAE,comment-id=00020000000000000000000000000004000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-19T22:12:24.604+0000)

yep got me again... i mean its not like i never seen that champ before

what's laning phase again?

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

??? this isnt halo ?

IMT Fish1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GX8hfUAE,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000000400000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-19T22:55:52.298+0000)

??? this isnt halo ?

nope fam. welcome to league of legends:D company only cares about pro players.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

as far as i know no one cares about anyone in this community... company to players and players among each other

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

the OP also isnt stating that the game he is referring to the enemy anivia was 13-2-8 and his mid laner went 1-10-5 and never had one shred of MR vs that lane. he was graves jungle who so a short range ad caster who has to walk up to her and be in her entire spell range to do any damage to her.

Marshbouy1 votes

How is any of that relevant?

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

how is any of it not? it is relevant to the champ we are talking about and their amount of damage

Marshbouy1 votes

Scores don't mean shit. Build paths do. If anivia is dealing 1k damage when she has item 3027 item 3003 item 3020 item 3089 to a item 3020 item 3285 ziggs, there is no issue. if an anivia is dealing 600 damag with only item 3010 item 3070 there is an issue.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

score indicates gold and items... if u are 0-6-2 u have no gold or items if youre 10-2-2 u have gold and items. there fore it would indicate possible lvls, what part of game they are in and possibility of what items could be obtained but you cant see that you just see the #s of the kda ... so for her to have that kinda of score would indicate she is decently fed if not at worst even in game there fore we could assume the type of damage out she can have. so to say she is op with out items and needs to be nerfed is bs .... to say she was fed and got ahead and had gold and items and her damage was strong would be more of a possibility

Marshbouy1 votes

It gives a very loose approximation of gold and items. Total gold count and build is far more important. Sure that garen is 10/0 but he still only has item 1054 so he is an easy kill.

If she had 2 items on everyone until late game then yeah, she's not op. but when she has catalyst and TOG she should not be dealing 600 damage

Kyrrion1 votes

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It gives a very loose approximation of gold and items. Total gold count and build is far more important. Sure that garen is 10/0 but he still only has item 1054 so he is an easy kill.

If she had 2 items on everyone until late game then yeah, she's not op. but when she has catalyst and TOG she should not be dealing 600 damage

I agree, she should not be dealing 600 damage with her E with just Tear and Catalyst. Since the max base damage on her E is 350, dealing 600 would be considered a bug and should be remedied immediately. She needs at least 125 AP for her E to reach 600, but that's also not counting any possible resistance.

Kyrrion2 votes

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if E is maxed first at level 9 her ult is dealing 80 damage, her E is dealing 350 on base with a 100% scaling(based of the double damage from an RE). Assuming he has 30 ap from runes he is dealing about 80+480=560. Add in an auto attack and thunderlords it's easily 650 damage (pre mitigation, so more like back down to 600)

the math checks out. She's still dealing about 600 damage, maybe a bit less, with an R E auto.

350 base on E + 30 from 100% AP ratio on E, 380 total. Then her ult does 80 + 25% AP per second, so about 88 per second. Add 93 from Thunderlord's.

So with E and TL's, you're looking at 473 burst. Add 176 for 2 ticks of her ult and you're at 649 total. So 649 burst at level 9 with no AP. That's really not that bad as far as mage burst goes.

2yordles1cupcake1 votes

blame keystone.

Getcuxcd1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GX8hfUAE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-09-18T22:08:24.544+0000)

just a question have you tried MR ? or HP ?

maybe anivia should be forced to buy more AP to do that much dmg instead HUH ? the base dmg is TOO DAMN HIGH and saying mr or hp as an excuse for opness lmao you could apply that awful argument to anything it doesnt mean its okay an X champ to have too much

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

oh so counter building vs a champ isnt viable at all.... ok

Getcuxcd1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GX8hfUAE,comment-id=000200020000,timestamp=2016-09-19T13:33:14.046+0000)

oh so counter building vs a champ isnt viable at all.... ok

IT IS NOT AN EXCUSE to be OP we know that he can get countered EVERYONE CAN but that isnt an excuse

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

there are other champs that are just as strong with damage as her. the only reason people are bitching is cuz she is flavor of the month. she has only 3 abilities that have any damage on them 3 not 4 like most champs, she needs to build item 3010 item 3070 just so she has mana to use her abilities to farm there fore she has little to no ap til after these items are completed and its mid game. if you cant abuse her in that time frame and beat her then you deserve to lose to her

Getcuxcd1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GX8hfUAE,comment-id=00020002000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-19T16:37:24.522+0000)

there are other champs that are just as strong with damage as her. the only reason people are bitching is cuz she is flavor of the month. she has only 3 abilities that have any damage on them 3 not 4 like most champs, she needs to build item 3010 item 3070 just so she has mana to use her abilities to farm there fore she has little to no ap til after these items are completed and its mid game. if you cant abuse her in that time frame and beat her then you deserve to lose to her

LOL but the thing is she doesnt need AP her base dmg is way too high thats the problem

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

typically champs that are immobile and only have 3 damaging spells/abilities seem to have a higher base damage.

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

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