why does ap grags do no damage.

MunchCrunchLunch·Apr 26, 2016·2 votes·571 views

I mean I can build ap for fun on maokai and do some real damage. amumu same thing.malphite same thing. even if am fed on ap gragas after level 8 or so I can't even 1 combo nearly anyone. ap blitzcrank has some real burst with 2 1.0 ap spells. gragas ratios and base damages arent all that high. the only thing that does damage his his Q. can u at least let us do it for fun. idk just increase his ratios a little bit. he has high early damage early and u can burst people but not that long after a full combo does like. really low burst damage.

10 Comments

NahuiApr 26, 20162 votes

You're kidding, right?

MunchCrunchLunchApr 26, 20161 votes

no am not. am building the recommended items and unless someone falls into my 2 second Q i cant really kill them. i mean your Q does do more damage than the ult and thats not saying much

NahuiApr 26, 20161 votes

Don't build the recommended items. Build what makes sense.

His Q also does not do more damage than the ult lol. Gragas has incredible base values with alright AP ratios. He definitely does damage lol, the math is all there in his formulas.

ModWulf HelhammerApr 26, 20161 votes

That's because the ult has a huge knockback attached to it.

NahuiApr 27, 20161 votes

No, the ult does more damage than the Q lol.

NahuiApr 27, 20161 votes

No, on it does not. Go look at the math. The ult does more damage than the Q lol.

And what two second Q? You throw it and pop it, just like Lux's E.

MysteriousBootieApr 26, 20161 votes

SUPPOSEDLY he was op the last time he did damage, so that's why ap gragas isn't very strong now.

lilpokflufApr 26, 20161 votes

Back then when gragas did damage, it was gragas vs orianna every game. And that was because with just a good Q and his Ult he could kill an entire team. As much as I miss it he was not balanced and it was pretty unfair playing against him. I agree that riot over nerfed his ap build but he's become a great tank and has one of the most versatile engage/disengages left in the game.

HEAljvLykdApr 27, 20161 votes

Look at old season Grag and there's your reason why.

LadyRenlyApr 27, 20161 votes

he still does damage, but honestly, the question we SHOULD be asking is why in the bloody hell does gragas do so much damage with just iceborn/sunfire