When a champ's ban rate exceeds their win rate

Dope Solo·May 19, 2019·4 votes·1,069 views

https://u.gg/lol/champions/zed/build

Earth to Riot, wake the f up man.

15 Comments

ZephyrDrakeMay 19, 20194 votes

Zed is one of those champions that could have 0% winrate and people would still be banning him

SuicidePlankMay 19, 20194 votes

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Zed is one of those champions that could have 0% winrate and people would still be banning him

But I agree on the fact that he is very strong right now. Deals way too much Damage without hitting anything besides his E R (very hard to hit, I know), once he has Duskblade.

CrazyMonkeyCZMay 19, 20196 votes

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But I agree on the fact that he is very strong right now. Deals way too much Damage without hitting anything besides his E R (very hard to hit, I know), once he has Duskblade.

Could someone for love of God show me clip of Zed that didn’t steamrolled and can one shot you with E R (you probably forgot AA) already?

I swear I see this exect comment from different accs every single day, never got my clip...

SuicidePlankMay 19, 20192 votes

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Could someone for love of God show me clip of Zed that didn’t steamrolled and can one shot you with E R (you probably forgot AA) already?

I swear I see this exect comment from different accs every single day, never got my clip...

You can't dodge the slow on his E, you get hit by atleast one Q, AA R Duskblade proc, dead.

And I don't follow any Zed streamers, neither can I access LoL on my Wifi, so I can't share any clips. Oh and also, I ban that shit to avoid said stuff.

mack9112May 19, 20191 votes

Clip ?

ZephyrDrakeMay 19, 20193 votes

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But I agree on the fact that he is very strong right now. Deals way too much Damage without hitting anything besides his E R (very hard to hit, I know), once he has Duskblade.

so what you are telling me is that a squishy champion went into melee range of Zed and took a bunch of damage as a result? since that is the only way he would achieve that with only E and R

SuicidePlankMay 19, 20193 votes

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so what you are telling me is that a squishy champion went into melee range of Zed and took a bunch of damage as a result? since that is the only way he would achieve that with only E and R

Ah right, because Zed has not double Camille Range to engage on someone, let alon having Youumus. And btw, you do realise that Lethality can completly negate Sunfires Armor?

ZephyrDrakeMay 19, 20192 votes

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Ah right, because Zed has not double Camille Range to engage on someone, let alon having Youumus. And btw, you do realise that Lethality can completly negate Sunfires Armor?

so now you are telling me that it's essentially a full build Zed vs someone who has just a single armor item? no wonder he can destroy them with little effort. Sunfire (and armor in general) literally negates lethality not the other way around. Also considering that for him to achieve any sort of range he needs to use his W and more than likely flash... so why does nobody reacted to that? then again according to you it's fine to have Zed have multiple items and cry because he beats someone with a single item

SuicidePlankMay 19, 20192 votes

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so now you are telling me that it's essentially a full build Zed vs someone who has just a single armor item? no wonder he can destroy them with little effort. Sunfire (and armor in general) literally negates lethality not the other way around

No, that was my second argument since you said "squishy champion " Sudden Impact + 59 Lethality vs 60 Armor Sunfire. And everything aside, Armor/resistences in generall are pretty shit right now.

Also considering that for him to achieve any sort of range he needs to use his W and more than likely flash... so why does nobody reacted to that?

No, he needs to use W and R someone, no one except Zhonyas User survive that. And since you now can't be to far away from your W, he is always safe to go back and flash out. While also having Edge of Night, which negates a lot of point and click spells to catch slippery champs like Zed.

ModWulf HelhammerMay 19, 20194 votes

No, earth to community.

When people are continuously banning an objectively weak champion, that's a sign to them that they should learn that sometimes, things aren't going to be the most fun to play against. There's dozens of champions in the game like that (and no, they aren't the likes of Yasuo or Riven).

Instead of actually harming your chances by banning out something weak, instead focus on what's strong, and just improve your own play so that annoying things aren't that annoying for you to play against anymore.

abusive duoMay 19, 20192 votes

I can attest to this since I ban zed not because i find him broken but just because I don't want to play against him. He's in a state rn where he fits what his champ should be doing and maybe even more if the player is good at them.

Dope SoloMay 19, 20194 votes

His win rate just came DOWN to 51%, in what fucking universe is that considered "objectively weak"? He's been sitting in S tier mid for almost as long as Ahri.

LunanEclipseMay 28, 20191 votes

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No, earth to community.

When people are continuously banning an objectively weak champion, that's a sign to them that they should learn that sometimes, things aren't going to be the most fun to play against. There's dozens of champions in the game like that (and no, they aren't the likes of Yasuo or Riven).

Instead of actually harming your chances by banning out something weak, instead focus on what's strong, and just improve your own play so that annoying things aren't that annoying for you to play against anymore.

You do realize that zed is rocking a 53% win rate in masters with a 9% pick rate and 27% ban rate. He's a counter pick to all mages due to their low base health and armor but he is weak to what most other mid laners have an advantage against. Simply put if you counter him he's shit but anything else that is standard he wins.

PhieldworkerMay 19, 20191 votes

Eh. People ban yasuo over and over again whether he is meta or if he isn’t. Before Darius got his q buff people banned him all the time but he wasn’t over a 50% winrate. Just some times people don’t want to play against certain champs because it’s harder for them.

thefatlazycatMay 19, 20191 votes

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Eh. People ban yasuo over and over again whether he is meta or if he isn’t. Before Darius got his q buff people banned him all the time but he wasn’t over a 50% winrate. Just some times people don’t want to play against certain champs because it’s harder for them.

And I assume it's all coincidence that each of those champions was made by the same person?