...isn´t it finally time to admit that the Karma rework had been an utter fail that neither made her more appealing or any fun to play against? Can you please just give me my original unique Karma back and use the generic-support-mage kit for some other champion?
karma was never played until they gutted lulu because lulu was basically a better version of karma. or. karma is a worse version of lulu. they are both just as annoying and karma is too generic of a champion. shes like the tryndamere of supports
While I whole hearted agree with the sentiment, we need to be clearer on communicating exactly what changes we want to see to Karma.
Do we want to see Karma use her fans again, or do we want Riot to actually follow through with the twin dragons? - Chances are riot will probably build a new champ around using fans entirely soon anyway.
Do we want her dresses back?
Do we want her old tether mechanic back?
Do we want her shield bomb back, if so which version; the original (single target shield + damage), or the reworked (AoE shield/ms boost + damage)?
Do we want a new passive, if so what kind; something Karmic like her original passive, or something Ionian themed like the passive in SilverSquid's rework?
Do we want charges back on her Mantra?
It's clear Riot don't know what to do with her, and it doesn't help when the feedback isn't clear. Karma's rework will never be reverted in its entirety, so there's really no point asking for that anymore, they haven't listened for 3 years it's not happening. Our energies would be much better spent improving current Karma with some of her original elements and/or some new things.
Current Karma does work, Kog wasn't reverted because of that issue but because his design was pretty much gamebreaking.
Honestly, I'm not sure it would be healthy to bring that back, as much as I would like to consider them doing it. Old karma would be the definition of a Juggernaut's support (Major speed boost? Check. Moderately large %heath heal, AKA a Juggernaut's favorite thing ever? Check. High potential for damage mitigation, especially with the new support items? Check), and more importantly, she has game heath issues that would probably need to be addressed.
They could give her her old leveling system back though, there is no reason for her to have to rank her R every 5 levels, because no Karma will give up those R ranks, and all it is is a modifier for her base abilities. Just make it scale with level and be done with it, and give her the 6 rank basic abilities.
Her current state being fun/appealing or not is entirely subjective. There are people out there that enjoy the current kit, myself included. Don't get me wrong. I would jump at the chance to see her old version be returned. I like both kits, but as Ralanr stated, it's a bit late. There are people invested in her current self. Riot can't please everyone. The only way I would see this work if both sides compromise for a third rework, this time Riot considering both kits when coming up with a revamp skillset for her. They should consider what worked and what didn't for both kits and what people liked, visuals and gameplay.
Waaaaay too late for that.
