Why does Yasuo still have a 51% ban rate?

Linna Excel·Sep 23, 2019·43 votes·16,284 views

Does riot not see any issues with him?

Half of the players don't like playing against him and akali's been nerfed to death people are starting to remember to ban yasuo. He's not worth the heartache of learning how do deal with him when you can easily remove him from the game. Now because half of the player base hates him enough to ban him out, his mains can't play him half of the time. If he does get through it's probably because the other team's top laner is planning on playing him or is still scared of akali.

I get that he's a polarizing champ. That's fine. A 51% ban rate however means something is wrong with the champ. There's a difference between champs you hate but can deal with and champs who you feel are worth your vote to delete from any one match.

However, is there nothing riot can do to keep him fun to play for his mains while lowering how toxic other people feel like he is to play against?

122 Comments

DalekZecSep 23, 201937 votes

While Yasuo isn't much of an op champion to begin with, he and his kit are pretty damn toxic.

Even his windwall doesn't have a correct hitbox.

Linna ExcelSep 24, 20195 votes

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Even his windwall doesn't have a correct hitbox.

This seems like a little thing riot could easily fix if they wanted to.

IceKingChernobogSep 24, 20199 votes

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While Yasuo isn't much of an op champion to begin with, he and his kit are pretty damn toxic.

Even his windwall doesn't have a correct hitbox.

This, and i ban him cause when he's on my team he just ends up feeding the enemy midlaner. I don't ban him from the enemy team getting him, i ban him in fear of someone on my team getting him.

Kiwi LemonadeSep 24, 20198 votes

Agreed. Windwall-esque abilities belong on a support (Braum), pretty toxic on a manaless assassin. That plus millions of dashes, he's toxic to play against even if he doesn't know what he's doing - and toxic to have as an ally too. His kit relies solely on being overloaded (free stats and no mana) and mindless spamming, because eventually you'll land a q-nado and win the game (or straight up be insta gibbed and lose it)

Curious KatSep 24, 201917 votes

Honestly, i think hes banned because of windwall. Fights are incredibly short, a few seconds at most, and well, his windwall just cucks the fight for that period of time. By the time it's gone, all windows of 1 shot opportunity are gone, or wasted, and there isn't enough time in team fights to fight around that.

Like, it's not even an issue of not knowing how to play around the Yas's wind wall, it's literally just because the fights themselves are TOO SHORT to play around him, and his kit. He windwalls, fight is over before it's gone, or at least mostly decided.

I honestly see a Yas go in, windwall, die, and the team wins because it blocked enough 1 shots for their team to 1 shot the other team lol. People know how to play around it, there just isn't enough time in your average fight length now TO play around it.

As a former Yas main, i feel that's why tbh. It's not his damage, or passive, it's the fact that he can take away the 1 shot in 0.5 second advantage from people, and they hate that.

Linna ExcelSep 24, 20195 votes

I'm not going to lie, this is a pretty annoying about his kit, especially when you have 1 critical skill that you have to land to be effective. That said, when I play overwatch, I play D.Va so I can get why people like that about him as well.

I think if riot reduced it's duration to 1 second total that probably make him less annoying to lane against and good yasuo mains would learn to hold on to it for blocking a key ult or CC and wouldn't be too hurt by it.

InfernapeSep 24, 20193 votes

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I'm not going to lie, this is a pretty annoying about his kit, especially when you have 1 critical skill that you have to land to be effective. That said, when I play overwatch, I play D.Va so I can get why people like that about him as well.

I think if riot reduced it's duration to 1 second total that probably make him less annoying to lane against and good yasuo mains would learn to hold on to it for blocking a key ult or CC and wouldn't be too hurt by it.

It should be more akin to Fiora's riposte. Riot could reduce the cooldown to compensate if the duration was only for a split second.

Hell Riot should take away the safety of his W being omnidirectional and make it only block projectiles from the direction he casts it in.

The entire teamSep 24, 201912 votes

People don’t just ban him because he’s annoying and “OP”.

I ban him because I don’t trust anybody playing a Yasuo and then feeding heavily and not contributing to the fight.

Crescent DuskSep 24, 201910 votes

Because you can stomp him in lane 0/7 and it doesn't matter because he can go farm a side lane after laning phase and after getting bloodthirster, IE, and PD he becomes utterly ridiculous with only a few bruisers able to duel him after.

He's a champion that has ample mobility and a quickly recharing shield passive alongside ranged poke and big dick DPS.

Basically the same reason people hate Zed. It's not fun playing against champs that have multiple juking tools that will also melt your face off.

If a Xerath or Velkoss miss their stun/knockup, that's a large window I have to punish and likely net a kill.

Not so with Yasuo/Zed, both of which have multiple ways to dodge anything and their damage has a fairly low CD (shuriken has an incredibly low 6 sec cd and Zed's E is not far behindl; Yasuo's Q scales with attack speed and by static shiv he's using it almost every 2 seconds, which means every 6 seconds he has a tornado you have to dodge).

WalkingInACircleSep 23, 20199 votes

Most popular champion in game.

Linna ExcelSep 23, 201915 votes

He's banned solely because he's popular? Why would anyone waste a ban like that?

Ban priorities should be:

Pick/ban champs no one on your team is planning on picking
Champs that hard counter who you are planning on playing.
Hard counter options to teammates with multiple hard counters if you can handle what's going to be thrown at you.
Low winrate champs you want to keep off of your team.

WalkingInACircleSep 23, 201927 votes

No, he's not touched by Riot because he's popular.

Minimac2000Sep 23, 20196 votes

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He's banned solely because he's popular? Why would anyone waste a ban like that?

Ban priorities should be:

Pick/ban champs no one on your team is planning on picking

Champs that hard counter who you are planning on playing.

Hard counter options to teammates with multiple hard counters if you can handle what's going to be thrown at you.

Low winrate champs you want to keep off of your team.

Meh, I wish I could ban champs that hard counter me. You are pretty much forced to ban the overtuned champ of the week at this point though. Goodbye, fiora or kled. And the reason people still ban yasuo is the same reason people ban pyke. They have too much potential to be feeding and then button mash and bc they either interrupted your combo or executed you all from half hp get a quadra kill and suddenly have more power than the champ/s that's been beating them all game long

GigglesOSep 24, 20192 votes

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He's banned solely because he's popular? Why would anyone waste a ban like that?

Yea, people don't get that popularity likely has a strong correlation to feels like I can carry with.

SaezioSep 24, 20192 votes

How do you explain the ezreal phenomenon then? xD

He is picked tons while having a trash winrate. Also champs like Lee Sin who was always a popular pick even when objectively weak.

There are just some champions that people love to play more than others regardless of their strength.

GigglesOSep 24, 20191 votes

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How do you explain the ezreal phenomenon then? xD

He is picked tons while having a trash winrate. Also champs like Lee Sin who was always a popular pick even when objectively weak.

There are just some champions that people love to play more than others regardless of their strength.

So safe you feel like you can safely carry.

There was a time before he was popular.

SaezioSep 24, 20191 votes

Well, he is arguably the hardest ADC to play, maybe people feel like they can safely carry but they are wrong lol. It's just perception. I don't remember Ez ever not being top 3-4 pickrates adc regardless of him being strong or not.

GigglesOSep 24, 20191 votes

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Well, he is arguably the hardest ADC to play, maybe people feel like they can safely carry but they are wrong lol. It's just perception. I don't remember Ez ever not being top 3-4 pickrates adc regardless of him being strong or not.

he wasn't popular before his q got a lower mana cost...

SaezioSep 24, 20192 votes

What season are you talking about? Since season 2 he has been steadily in the top picked adcs.

Gùrl GâmérSep 24, 20198 votes

a bad yasuo on your team sucks, a good yasuo on their team sucks, about 70% of yasuos spam mastery emote, his kit is overloaded. He has a resetting dash, a shield charge of a stattik shiv, a W that blocks most projectiles including ults, a passive that doulbles his crit chance. His Q applies auto effects and is lowered by attack speed, while his E has an increase in base damage by dashing through targets. Did I forget anything...?

RagnaveilSep 24, 20197 votes

People hate playing with him and playing against him. His kit could be 10 feet under and people will still ban him.

Barso55Sep 24, 20196 votes

why not make him energy based. that way he has to think before acting instead of doing whatever the hell he wants dashing around 24x7. It would reduce the number of bad yasuo players and reduce the potential of the good ones.

Also, one passive, not two is a good idea.

OtterlyLostSep 24, 20195 votes

If they just made his damn windwall fair...

One ability should not feasibly negate the entirety of a champion's kit. One ability should negate multiple champion's entire kits. Just as a point of reference, here are the champions that get completely cucked by the PoS and his fucking windwall:

Ashe Caitlyn Cassiopeia Corki Draven Ezreal Heimerdinger Janna Jhin Jinx Kaisa Kalista Karma KogMaw Lucian MissFortune Nami Neeko Orianna Sivir Sona Syndra Teemo Tristana TwistedFate Twitch Varus Vayne Veigar Vladimir Xayah Yuumi Ziggs Zyra Zilean

And these are just the ones that it either completely negates EVERYTHING IN THEIR KIT or grossly negates most of their kit. This is a huge amount of champions and considering there are passages in the jungle that the stupid thing is wide and fat enough to cover up completely, it actively punishes some of these champions for positioning themselves well relative to the teamfight. And it lasts for essentially 4 seconds. This ability is ridiculously unfair and unfun to play against. It literally prevents huge swaths of champions from actively and effectively playing against even a just middling skilled Yasuo. The Windwall is the source of at least 90 to 95% of my frustration with him as a champion. He can have everything else, IDC. But for fuck's sake, get the fucking Windwall out of this goddamn game.

Pika FoxSep 24, 20192 votes

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If they just made his damn windwall fair...

One ability should not feasibly negate the entirety of a champion's kit. One ability should negate multiple champion's entire kits. Just as a point of reference, here are the champions that get completely cucked by the PoS and his fucking windwall:

And these are just the ones that it either completely negates EVERYTHING IN THEIR KIT or grossly negates most of their kit. This is a huge amount of champions and considering there are passages in the jungle that the stupid thing is wide and fat enough to cover up completely, it actively punishes some of these champions for positioning themselves well relative to the teamfight. And it lasts for essentially 4 seconds. This ability is ridiculously unfair and unfun to play against. It literally prevents huge swaths of champions from actively and effectively playing against even a just middling skilled Yasuo. The Windwall is the source of at least 90 to 95% of my frustration with him as a champion. He can have everything else, IDC. But for fuck's sake, get the fucking Windwall out of this goddamn game.

One person should not be throwing their entire kit all at once onto a champion who can negate it.

Multiple people should not be throwing their entire kit all at once onto a person who can negate it.

I can play this game too.

OtterlyLostSep 24, 20195 votes

One champion shouldn't be able to zone an entire team of champions off for 4 seconds after a tank has already engaged. There also shouldn't be an ability that actively forces you to have to be in a bad position in order to interact with a teamfight. And this isn't even touching on how many of the champions I listed aren't even using spells but are trying to AA; they can't literally do anything any if Yasuo just decided to say fuck you and throw up a wall.

You can play this game and lose though. That's fine with me. There's no plausible or discernibly good argument on your end for why one champion with one ability can zone an entire team off a teamfight for 4 seconds. its not even a particularly skillful ability.

Pika FoxSep 25, 20191 votes

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One champion shouldn't be able to zone an entire team of champions off for 4 seconds after a tank has already engaged. There also shouldn't be an ability that actively forces you to have to be in a bad position in order to interact with a teamfight. And this isn't even touching on how many of the champions I listed aren't even using spells but are trying to AA; they can't literally do anything any if Yasuo just decided to say fuck you and throw up a wall.

You can play this game and lose though. That's fine with me. There's no plausible or discernibly good argument on your end for why one champion with one ability can zone an entire team off a teamfight for 4 seconds. its not even a particularly skillful ability.

Or you could just learn how to play your champion into him and just.... Literally walk 3 teemos to the side?

Also, who are you to say "no champion should be able to x!". Do you have any game balance experience? No? Do you balance this game? No? Well, hate to break it to you, but you have no authority to make that claim or even be credible in such. Its just an opinion, not a statement of fact like youre portraying it.

OtterlyLostSep 25, 20194 votes

If you're trying to fight in a narrow area(which just happens especially if you're contesting dragons, barons, etc), sometimes there isn't an option to walk three teemos to the side. This isn't even addressing how he can literally cast it on himself and stand in the fucking thing or how even if you're shooting to the side of it, sometimes it likes to block the abilities/AAs from the side as well.

Who are you to say that a champion should hard counter a huge swath of the champion pool with just one basic ability? Have you got any experience?

Whether its a matter of opinion or not is irrelevant. Its an exceptionally popular opinion and if multiple people feel that way about it, it should not be that way. Multiple people find him unfun and enjoyable to play against because his windwall and other aspects of his kit lack clear counterplay. If the only thing removed from this overloaded champion is his ability to windwall the entire Kits and CDs, I think he got off really well.

Remove or rework the windwall. Its a toxic mechanic and there is literally nothing else in the game that works like it. Even vaguely similar mechanics at least have draw backs or last for way less time.

Pika FoxSep 25, 20191 votes

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If you're trying to fight in a narrow area(which just happens especially if you're contesting dragons, barons, etc), sometimes there isn't an option to walk three teemos to the side. This isn't even addressing how he can literally cast it on himself and stand in the fucking thing or how even if you're shooting to the side of it, sometimes it likes to block the abilities/AAs from the side as well.

Who are you to say that a champion should hard counter a huge swath of the champion pool with just one basic ability? Have you got any experience?

Whether its a matter of opinion or not is irrelevant. Its an exceptionally popular opinion and if multiple people feel that way about it, it should not be that way. Multiple people find him unfun and enjoyable to play against because his windwall and other aspects of his kit lack clear counterplay. If the only thing removed from this overloaded champion is his ability to windwall the entire Kits and CDs, I think he got off really well.

Remove or rework the windwall. Its a toxic mechanic and there is literally nothing else in the game that works like it. Even vaguely similar mechanics at least have draw backs or last for way less time.

Oh no, a melee champion is standing in a single spot. I guess i cant just literally walk away.

Linna ExcelSep 25, 20191 votes

Team fights in the river/jungle aren't just a single melee champ though and depending on how smart the other team is about working around the windwall or flanking your team, the harder it is to move a little bit to the side. Plus wasn't there a bug where Yasuo could stand in the windwall and be untouchable by skills?

Anyways, considering OtterlyLost mentioned baron/dragon, somehow I don't think it's fair that a team would have to give up an objective because of a single non-ult skill.

Looking at it another way, it's a bit of an issue that he gives his entire team a safe avenue to attack from while the other team might have had several skill shots eaten if they all happen to cast them in quick succession. A pro team could bait out the windwall because it's coordinated while a bunch of randos don't have that luxury.

Pika FoxSep 25, 20191 votes

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Team fights in the river/jungle aren't just a single melee champ though and depending on how smart the other team is about working around the windwall or flanking your team, the harder it is to move a little bit to the side. Plus wasn't there a bug where Yasuo could stand in the windwall and be untouchable by skills?

Anyways, considering OtterlyLost mentioned baron/dragon, somehow I don't think it's fair that a team would have to give up an objective because of a single non-ult skill.

Looking at it another way, it's a bit of an issue that he gives his entire team a safe avenue to attack from while the other team might have had several skill shots eaten if they all happen to cast them in quick succession. A pro team could bait out the windwall because it's coordinated while a bunch of randos don't have that luxury.

Funny how players in high elo dont complain about windwall and dragon, and last i checked yasuo isnt a common tournament pick. Maybe they know how to move 3 teemos to the side and its actually not an issue?

OtterlyLostSep 25, 20192 votes

It's not just walk 3 teemos to the side. You've literally been provided multiple examples where that does not work. I know you probably have a hard on for this champion but the wind wall is problematic. Whether it is problematic at high elo or not is also irrelevant. That's max 10% of the playerbase depending on how high you go. The other 90% have issue with and do complain about the windwall. When 90% of players have issue with something, it needs to be addressed.

Pika FoxSep 25, 20191 votes

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It's not just walk 3 teemos to the side. You've literally been provided multiple examples where that does not work. I know you probably have a hard on for this champion but the wind wall is problematic. Whether it is problematic at high elo or not is also irrelevant. That's max 10% of the playerbase depending on how high you go. The other 90% have issue with and do complain about the windwall. When 90% of players have issue with something, it needs to be addressed.

Or you can literally just... Walk to the side. Im a support main, but ive also ran lux into yasuo multiple times. Its really not that hard to just.... Not qwerbfjsksj instantly then act surprised when he uses an ability you clearly know he has.

Its a 20+s CD. Bait it then punish.

OtterlyLostSep 25, 20192 votes

And you can't read because you've been provided with examples of where WALKING TO THE SIDE DOES NOT WORK. I can write it in big letters for you or do bullet points if that makes your brain grasp it any better.

Hell, I'll do both.

#1. Example A: Your team preps for a teamfight around dragon. You have to funnel through a narrow corridor. There are jungle walls on either side. Your top laner engages because he's something big and beefy and that's his goddamn job. Your mage, ADC, and Support are behind your jungler who is also beefy. Top is on river. You guys are in jungle. Yasuo walks up and tosses his 4 second windwall and blocks the entire entrance to the river. Your team now cannot affectively follow up or do damage to help your top without grossly putting themselves in a bad position. Your top dies, you have to retreat because the fight is now a 4v5. You lose dragon. #2. Yasuo is fighting you in lane. Your jungler ganks. He casts windwall and stands in it. It eats your abilities from all sides because the ability is fucking fat. #3. You're fighting Yasuo. You're standing far away from him and the wave, trying to CS where you can. One of the few times you get a little greedy for a minion, he dashes through the wave, is on top of you and casts his Windwall. Its on top of you. Even though your model's weapon is not in the wall it still eats the AA's. Moving back just encourages him to chase you and, since he got the first hit in, that would mean you'd die. Moving forward just puts you in melee with him. Standing in it also doesn't work because you're not doing damage to him. #4. You move to the side of the windwall and because its hit box is fat and they refuse to fix it, it still eats your AA. #5. Your spells clearly hit his model but because the windwall comes out from him, it eats the spells and AA's that have clearly already connected. You are now on CD and a sitting duck

Lazy GrandpaSep 23, 20194 votes

i'm not gonna lie he's so fking annoying when he gets in a game like he'd be kaisa levels except you can still somewhat itemize against him, and he is liable to feed i stopped banning him a pretty long time ago though, just seemed not worth it anymore.

i don't think anything short of destroying his lore, character and/or kit is gonna stop him from being picked. whenever he isn't banned, he gets picked 90% of the time

EkhasmSep 24, 20194 votes

Remove his shield, BAM

The Stripy BagSep 24, 20194 votes

I think that you got it somewhat half right but the other half is like most people I don't want him on my team. It's part of why I'm gonna start banning Malphite.

UlkususSep 24, 20194 votes

Apparently 6-7x average ban rate (as given in this dev post here ) is not enough to change him, he would need a higher win rate for that.

Whyever a constantly high banrate isnt also a reason to change a champion is beyond me though.

Daddy AntsSep 24, 20191 votes

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Apparently 6-7x average ban rate (as given in this dev post here ) is not enough to change him, he would need a higher win rate for that.

Whyever a constantly high banrate isnt also a reason to change a champion is beyond me though.

52.5%WR at 5x ABR

Average Ban rate is 7% also.

Yasuo meets the ban rate but not the win rate.

XintiumSep 24, 20192 votes

Very nice post, Linna Excel, I pretty much agree with you.

An important point you made is that also Yasuo mains are negatively affected by it. Moreover, people who would like to main Yasuo ("Yasuo trainee", i.e., neither a first-timer nor a true main) really have a hard time doing it, due to the high ban rate. Which brings us back to Riot criteria:

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52.5%WR at 5x ABR Average Ban rate is 7% also. Yasuo meets the ban rate but not the win rate.

This criteria (btw, the criteria for "Skilled Play" is basically the same: 52% WR at 5x ABR, so this applies to almost-all Elos ranges, excluding 0.1% of player-base and pro-play) has a critical flaw. Winrate and banrate are not independent: in fact, banrate seriously affects winrate (to the point of making winrate a useless metric). For increasing banrate, the winrate threshold for "Skilled Play" should decrease accordingly. Thus, extremely high banrate, like the case we have with Yasuo right now, would at least "raise a flag".

Riot decided to use a single WR-threshold (at 5x ABR), but in reality this is actually a function: for each value of the banrate, there exist a corresponding WR-hreshold. Also, you don't need to use an integer multiple of ABR, that's just an arbitrary simplification (which leads to stupid results). If ABR=7%, the (5,6,7) multiples are (35, 42, 49), so if a champion has 48.999% banrate, it will still fail to fall into the 49% "bin" and will be judged with a threshold thought for 6xABR, when it is actually extremely close to the 49% bin.

What we have now is even worse: a champ with 34.999% banrate, who fails the 5xABR check, will be judged according to the nominal criterion, just like a champion with 10% banrate. Nonsense. There is no need to quantize a function with steps as big as ABR, only a lower cutoff is needed.

SoisauceCCHSep 24, 20194 votes

People hate playing with him, people hate playing against him. He's Shaco 2.0. The only person having fun is the Yasuo player.

He has a high skill ceiling, sure. That's what the reasoning is supposed to be for him being so absurdly overloaded in his kit.

But why is he also known as a complete pub-stomper? Why does every Yasuo, regardless of level of skill or amount of games played, end up with a positive KDA and full build?

His powerspikes are completely out of control, and come from very very VERY low cost items, which tend to be even more gold efficient due to his passive doubling his crit chance.

He has no period of time where he is weak, no period of time where he is without insane mobility, no period of time where he is vulnerable to ganks, as long as he isn't completely idiotic and diving under their tower 24/7.

It's like a Vayne with no weak early game. Add in the fact he's the "Samurai" character, and you have all the insufferable weebs trying to 1-trick him so they can post their Anime-highlight reels.

Nobody likes Yasuo players except Yasuo players. That's the problem, and he should be reworked accordingly.

Cloud273Sep 24, 20192 votes

Where are you getting these numbers? That seems WAY too high to be true. I wanna see some links. The bigger question is why does Yasuo get all the hate on boards and Zed just gets a free pass? He's picked and banned just as much (if not more) and he wins more.

KnKitsuneSep 24, 20194 votes

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Where are you getting these numbers? That seems WAY too high to be true. I wanna see some links. The bigger question is why does Yasuo get all the hate on boards and Zed just gets a free pass? He's picked and banned just as much (if not more) and he wins more.

According to League of Graphs, its 51.4%.

48.06% in lolalytics.

and 49.11% in op.gg.

ORB1TSSep 24, 20191 votes

All the people saying he is busted are wrong. Just take a look at his win rate the higher the elo goes. No one in low elo knows how to play against him properly so instead of learning they auto ban him. Simple.

LauchmelderSep 24, 20192 votes

Most people who dislike Yasuo: "I dislike how something is x."

You: "People who claim y are wrong."

ORB1TSSep 24, 20191 votes

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Most people who dislike Yasuo: "I dislike how something is x."

You: "People who claim y are wrong."

Expect I have literal statistical facts that he is not broken. legit look at his winrates in iron then look in Grandmaster.

LauchmelderSep 24, 20194 votes

Take your right hand and facepalm yourself.

The statistical majority doesn't say that Yasuo is broken, they say that he is overloaded which makes him frustrating to play against. The biggest complaint about him is his windwall not being a windwall but a windhouse.

You're coming in here talking about how people claim that he is broken when barely anyone even says that to begin with. You're completely missing the point because in your blinded state completely refuse to even listen to what people are saying. They are wrong for talking bad about your main after all.

ORB1TSSep 24, 20191 votes

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Take your right hand and facepalm yourself.

The statistical majority doesn't say that Yasuo is broken, they say that he is overloaded which makes him frustrating to play against. The biggest complaint about him is his windwall not being a windwall but a windhouse.

You're coming in here talking about how people claim that he is broken when barely anyone even says that to begin with. You're completely missing the point because in your blinded state completely refuse to even listen to what people are saying. They are wrong for talking bad about your main after all.

Qyana is overloaded, and no one complains about her?

LauchmelderSep 24, 20191 votes

She's next in line. One overloaded champion doesn't excuse another one.

ORB1TSSep 24, 20191 votes

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She's next in line. One overloaded champion doesn't excuse another It dosent matter if it is overloaded or not. Just take a look at winrates in high elo even above plat. Take anything away from Yasuo's kit at all and it makes him garbage.

LauchmelderSep 25, 20193 votes

Keep telling yourself that. An overloaded kit that makes a champion banned in every second game is a problem and should be looked at.