Lol I saw an unfed Draven 2 hit Caitlyn

Bultz·Jul 24, 2017·14 votes·800 views

Legit he was like 5/6/1 and she was like 6/6/1 or something around there and while she's trying to aa him he literally two hit her. The balance of this game has gone to such shit it's actually funny to me now.

36 Comments

Ra1ugaJul 24, 20175 votes

If draven was 0/6/1 id be worried.

He has 5 kills.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJul 24, 20174 votes

its not like she was behind it was an even as far as kda for the most part... draven is by far the single target damaging adc to have to trade with and with caits nerfs she is in a bad spot

AnhartaminJul 24, 20171 votes

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oSEXYPLATYPUSoJul 24, 20171 votes

cait is not more broken then draven stop it

draven is the top tier adc right now

cait is egh close to the bottom

look at facts not feeling and opinion

AnhartaminJul 24, 20171 votes

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oSEXYPLATYPUSoJul 24, 20171 votes

not of recent not since the current patch ...

go look

AnhartaminJul 24, 20171 votes

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oSEXYPLATYPUSoJul 24, 20171 votes

im fine for him being good.. i dont want him dumpstered at all

im just point out facts. there needs to be better balance of power in bot lane... its the only role that 16 champs are played due to the type of champ ( marksmen) and it has the same champs over and over rise to the top

khorneyJul 24, 20171 votes

quinn says other wise

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJul 24, 20171 votes

what does quinn have anything to do with draven vs cait ?

khorneyJul 24, 20171 votes

draven is by far the single target damaging adc to have to trade with what u said there

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJul 24, 20171 votes

ok quinn isnt played bot lane... she is a range assassin who is played top/ mid sometimes and every now and then jungle... you are less likely to see her bot.

khorneyJul 24, 20171 votes

doesnt change the fact though. say what u want ashe is by far the best adc in the game.

Paradise ProxyJul 24, 20174 votes

5/6/1 vs 6/6/1

Like, where's the context? CS? Game time? Farm? How much draven has cashed in on his items? Cait's reaction? Summoners? Items?

You can't just list two near-identical scores and tell me one champ is overpowered because he caught out another adc

ninjaroxasJul 24, 20171 votes

what would game time have to do with it though, a lvl 18 full build is the same at 40 and 60 minutes in

TequilaZombieJul 24, 20171 votes

A non lv 18 with no full build is very much different on lower game times.

Also game lasting 60 mins in 2k17. kek

ninjaroxasJul 24, 20171 votes

hey i nearly had a 60 minute game a few games ago

Enraged PigletJul 24, 20171 votes

also did the Draven crit? and was caitlyn really full health and not like 70% or something. Also if this happened to say vayne no one would really care. That's because even though vayne is one of the best 1v1 adc's a vayne player should never mess with a Draven unless possible if she can get a condemn off because thats Dravens strength.

Dravens weakness is he has to catch axes which is bad for teamfights and he has no mobility and low range for an adc with no mobility.

DanjengJul 24, 20174 votes

I think Draven is strong and he could be nerfed in certain aspects to make him less dominant.

But as somebody who doesn't play much in the bottom lane, or Draven ever, I think he's one of the better designed ADC's. He requires positioning to make use of his axes, you can zone him off from them by aiming skillshots towards the axe locations. It can prove especially deadly in the case of Morg Snare or Cait traps. He actually has some counterplay, opposed the counterplay against most ADC's being kill them before they kill you.

crzymdscntstJul 24, 20172 votes

Actually, he decides where his axes will land if he's moving. It's more than just "here's the target location" it targets his axe landing points along a line in the direction he's moving based on movespeed. It's only random when he's standing still.

Positioning means less, it's the moving that means a lot. The axe-hit to time it lands is a very small window to exploit.

DanjengJul 24, 20171 votes

I know that much. That's why I said skillshots could be aimed towards the direction he is headed in. Also, after throwing an axe to cs, Draven is open to being harassed.

JackMcSnipeyzJul 24, 20171 votes

his axes dont fall perfectly, if he stands in place and AA it will move a bit each time, more so, when chasing, the axe wont go the full way, he will always hack to backpaddle a bit, it's like that on purpose, if it wouldnt he would be useless because he would be completely RNG

Mecha IncognitoJul 24, 20174 votes

But he has 5 kills. I'm not sure if you're in the know, but he gets a lot of gold off 5 kills.

Scary DoorJul 24, 20173 votes

yawn

Video evidence?

chipndip1Jul 24, 20173 votes

This isn't enough information, honestly.

EschetonJul 24, 20173 votes

See, what you did here is provide sketchy incomplete data. You prettymuch posted the Draven version about complaining about a 1/4/1 Nasus that got left alone to farm after his tower got taken and has 500+ stacks and at least item 3078 item 3800 KDA IS NOT EVERYTHING.

How much farm gold difference are they? How much extra gold from landing axes did Draven rake in when he did get those kills? How much shutdown gold? How many dragons of each type does he have? Did Caitlyn have flat or scaling armor runes or did she go for scaling health instead, ignoring that Draven might actually build a Lethality item?

AR URFJul 24, 20172 votes

If you go on the forums there's some unspoken rules apparently. You don't talk bad about Draven or you get down voted.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJul 24, 20173 votes

but bitch about cait and how unfair/unfun she is you get 1000s of upvotes and hate if you defend her at all

MarshbouyJul 24, 20172 votes

?? what are you talking about? Hot has been packed with "NERF CAIT" and "NERF DD DRAVEN" for a while. People are finally adjusting to the newer meta and complaining about the new "op" champions.

AR URFJul 24, 20172 votes

if you don't agree with what's trending you get down voted. For example when rengar buffs were going crazy on the forums and when yasuo nerfs were going crazy on the forums if you disagree and had good points you still got down voted.

MarshbouyJul 24, 20172 votes

I know this. I've been on the forums for 2 years. That's irrelevant to what i was saying.

AR URFJul 24, 20172 votes

If you want an answer to what you were saying most people posting had something to say about item 3812 in particular and how it affected Draven . Now people are realizing that draven works better with item 3072 and so they're moving on to nerfing draven.